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nickelgoat
Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 207 Location: Where in the world is nickelgoat?
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
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squindia

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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no updates from me. I had a 2nd interview...seemed to go well but after hearing more about the nature of the work...I lost interest. Since you are on the boat all the time with students, you are basically on the job all the time as well. And from what the 2nd interviewer said, seems that management on the boats haven't exactly bought into their charges taking ESL classes, so she indicated there would be some coaxing and schmoozing going on. I just don't have interest in doing that kind of thing anymore...I want to teach.
Good luck to all that applied, still seems like an adventurous experience! |
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gh27
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: ESL cruise instructor |
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Does anyone have any contact info for where I can send my resume?
Thanks for your help 
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squindia

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: |
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I no longer have their contact information but I got it here on Dave's. Maybe do a search for 'princess cruise' on the job board and see if you get it that way.
good luck! |
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Mpho
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 58
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: Cruise line job |
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Here is a copy of the Princess Cruise line job.
A little info for those who might apply.
This is a cushy job in reality, but the students' are never too keen on learning as they have a long work day and this cuts into their free time.
You will find most employees being taught speek Spanish, Filipino, an Indian dialect or some African dialects. Basic levels of English go from very good to none.
It is like teaching a kindergarten to first grade class in many cases.
You will be expected to teach hotel service English mainly with a smattering of ettiquette and culture. Others will be interested in casino English and all the intricacies of gambling in English.
Also, do not be surprised, as you might be teaching engineers English (as I have done on freighters). This is highly technical English involving air conditioning systems, heating sytems, pumps, air compressors, weight handling equipment and hundreds of other mechanical and electrical devices on ship including waste handling, environmental protection, etc.
And even sometimes translating very technical manuals so that they understand how to comply with maritime law.
Once aboard you are a captive, no jumping ship, ha. ha. And the other posters are correct, inside cabins are noisy.
Board Our Ships!
Posted By: Princess Cruises <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, 17 November 2007, at 7:29 a.m.
Princess Cruises is seeking individuals to provide ESL instruction for crew who work on board our ships. Successful candidates will be skilled ESL professionals, with a Masters Degree in TEFL/TESOL, who are able to adapt to our unique "crew culture" atmosphere. This is a shipboard position, and requires the incumbent to live on board for 2-3 months at a time. A typical workday will include 4-5 hours of instructor-led classes and 2-3 hours preparation. This schedule is based on a six-day workweek. Assignments are up to three months in length. The compensation package for this position includes:
* $500 weekly compensation (before taxes for US citizens)
* Guest accommodation
* All meals are included
* All gratuities are included
* Air travel to and from the ship's port
* Laundry service
* Shipboard activities, as available
* Interior passenger or officer cabin
If you are interested in pursuing this unique opportunity, please forward your current r�sum� via e-mail to Fleet Training [email protected] (Please write ESL Instructor and YOUR NAME in the Subject)or via fax to 661-753-0141.
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maireadinish
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Hi. I recently finished a contract with Princess Cruises and while there certainly are a lot of great things connected with working on a ship, there are a number of things that you should be aware of before you take the job. As far as I know, this is the only line that offers ESL training onboard, although you might want to check with P&O.
Please note that I'm trying not to just vent, but I just finished my contract and I've been analyzing my experience to determine whether I would want to go back if the position was offered. Take my advice with a grain of salt; I'm not sure that I'm entirely neutral.
First of all, yes, you will get to travel and see a lot of amazing places; my 6-month contract took to four continents on two different ships. Keep in mind that if you've never been on a cruise, quantity does not equal quality. Between your work schedule and the time in port, you can only get to spend a few hours in each port you go to, and sometimes none at all. This is fine for some ports, but just try to see Rome in 3 hours, when the train takes an hour each way. Please also keep in mind that you are not on vacation; I cannot emphasize this enough. Many people go to work on the ship looking for a free vacation and that is NOT what this is. The job comes first whether you want it to or not. You have many passenger privileges, but you are not a passenger.
I don't know what other cruise lines do, if they even have ESL jobs, but on Princess you are considered an officer equivalent. You're supposed to get an officer cabin and have deck privileges. This doesn't always happen and you'll just have to deal with it. Sometimes though, you will get an awesome cabin. Sometimes you won't. Sometimes you'll change cabins on a weekly basis, sometimes you won't. Keep in mind that even officer cabins can be very noisy and are most definitely cramped. Remember your days in the college dorm? I hope you enjoyed it, because that's what it's like sometimes.
You recruit your own students. This is the worst part of the job because there are a lot of politics involved on ships. Head office want's one thing, what actually happens on the ship is another. You have to get in good with the Heads of Departments in order to get students and then you have to compete with other trainers in order to keep them.
Your students work 10-13 hours a day, seven days a week 5-10 months a year (length dependent on nationality. Europeans work 5-6 months, Asians work 9-10 months. Pay is also based on nationality.) They're supposed to come to class on company time, but that rarely happens. They come on their own time and they're *tired*. And they have to finish 40 hours in 10 weeks. This is not an easy task for someone who's just finished a 13 hour shift.
If you don't get enough students and/or graduates, it's on your head, no matter the circumstances.
You report to the Personnel and Training manager (Human Resources). If this person is nice and friendly and pro-training, you'll do well. If this person is not one of those things listed above, you will not. This does happen. In my experience, head office seemingly doesn't follow up on the people it hires; I know that my own credentials were never checked. You may very well get a terrible boss (re: alcoholic, drug-pushing, lying) who will make your life miserable. Granted, you might get a splendid, professional boss who will become a really great friend. Both happened to me. I had four different P&T Managers. Three of them were really great people.
I thought that the curriculum was insufficient for basic English instruction. Fortunately, most of my students were upper level students. The company is working on a foundation level English course. I hope that it's better than what is currently available. Resources are limited, but some very good teacher resource books are provided. Basic supplies aren't always provided; you will have to be flexible with classrooms for example. I've taught in dining rooms, conference rooms, bars, storage areas, and stairwells. I've showed up to rooms a few minutes before class - rooms that I reserved a month in advance - only to find that it was taken over by someone else. You will also have to scrounge for a computer if you don't bring your own. There are computers in the purser office that you might be able to use. The internet is expensive ($20 for 200 minutes) and if you want to use it for business reasons, you have to pay for it. This may change; other non-English trainers have company-issued laptops with internet access. Every ship is different though.
Now, as for personal life. There are no secrets on ships. There are NO SECRETS ON SHIPS. If you date someone, everyone knows. If you get drunk, everyone knows. If you get sick, everyone knows (that's actually officially reported via e-mail, shipwide) If you walk out the door of the crew bar at roughly the same time as someone, everyone assumes that you are sleeping together. Rumors spread like wildfire. Now, I don't want to tell you what to do, you will be in a confined space. There is a copious amount of alcohol that you are not only allowed to consume, but expected to consume (I'll get to that). People form relationships faster than anywhere on earth. Have you heard about sailors having a girl in every port? There's a reason that this stereotype exists. Also keep in mind that the male to female ration on ships is 7 to 1. Be careful what you do with that information.
As for alcohol. Yes, you will be expected to drink. You have to socialize with the crew and the officers. This is how they socialize. If you are not okay with this, don't apply. I'm not kidding. There's a reason that sailors have such a bad reputation.
Other things to keep in mind.
If you are American, you will be in the minority. If you speak English as your first language, you will be in the minority. Most of the officers are Italian, Croatian, with a few Brits. Most of the crew are Philipino, Indian, Eastern European, Mexican, and Thai (in that order). If you can't live in an interracial community, especially one that has clear nationality divisions, don't apply.
Ships don't pay well. If you're in it for the money, go to the Middle East to teach. Or Korea.
Don't take your favorite clothes, the laundry will destroy them.
There are swimming pools. There are formal nights. You'll need work clothes (black pants/skirts, collared shirts). You'll need clothes to go ashore. You may go to beaches. You may go to the Arctic. You may be told that you are going to beaches, but end up going to the Arctic. The Caribbean is warm, but the ship is air-conditioned. You are not allowed to wear open-toed shoes. Pack accordingly.
Every piece of electronics needs to be tested. Power surges can occur. Use surge protectors on your expensive electronics.
The internet is slow and expensive and hates Apple products. Good luck uploading pictures.
So for anyone interested in applying, I hope that I've helped make up your mind. Good luck. Feel free to ask questions. |
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Marcoregano

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 872 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting post. Well, maybe in my next life I'll give it a go - probably too late now. |
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parrothead

Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 342 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| Insightful post. It would be a fascinating experience...at least for the stories one could tell. |
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Marcoregano

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 872 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| Indeed! It's the onboard shenanigans that especially intrigue me - a league of nations in such close confinement. Fascinating. |
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maireadinish
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:30 am Post subject: Jobs starting in February |
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Just so you all know, if you're planning to go join the ship, they won't be sending anyone out until February. Princess doesn't do training over the holidays and as the program is a minimum of three months long, no one new will be going out anytime soon.
That said, if you've had your interviews and it seemed to go well, they might still call. They're pretty notorious for saying jump, and expecting you to comply. |
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rononeil
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Barrie, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:35 am Post subject: Response |
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This letter is in response to maireadinish posting:
It amazed me the negative comments that come from a teacher that had to work 4 hours a day on one of the most beautiful ships of the sea. I was very fortunate to work on ships that had shifts up to 11 hours a day in other departments. You learn pretty fast what working is all about. Then I joined the ESL team aboard Princess Cruise Lines and worked 4 hours a day in the classroom.
First off, the program is wonderful and I have seen many staff members that have benefited from this program. Remember that safety and customer service is a priority on ships. This program is directly related to it. No it's not perfect, but the teams back in California at the University and at head office are working hard in making it better.
Certainly, staff work long hours and then they come to your classroom, which can be very difficult. But, if you�re a teacher that has experience, you come to class with energy and bring life to your curriculum. I loved teaching the staff and they reciprocated that feeling as well.
I've lived on ships a long time and I was never required to drink. In fact, the last contract I never drank and still socialized. My living accommodations were excellent because I had the standard officer cabin. It had a seating room in the back, tons of closet space, 4 foot long desk and a not so comfy bed. I was up at the gym everyday with the passengers and sometimes ate with the guests. The food was amazing! You just have to be aware of the deserts; they can be deadly to the hips.
Yes, there is politics on ships. What job doesn't! Recruiting students is a great way of getting to know the staff on ships and an excellent way of creating a positive interest about the program.
Over the years, I have met so many bubbly and outgoing P&T Managers on all major cruise lines that I have worked for (which you directly report to as the Instructor). If you understand the challenges of what a P&T Manager goes through on a daily basis, you would never speak negatively about them. Were not all perfect bosses all the time! Yes, Princess does random drug testing of staff onboard. It's all about safety!
What I loved the most is the diversity of the staff. They are the hardest workers you will ever find. I enjoyed coming to class and getting them to talk about their families and cultures.
In conclusion, every day I went to class with the full intention of giving my students what they needed to succeed in providing safety and a higher quality of service to everyone onboard. That might sound like a corporate way of putting it, but if your ship was ever on fire, you better hope that communication is clearly understood by every level of staff. And that is just one reason why we are onboard.
Ship life isn't perfect, but if you come onboard with a positive mind and understand the normal challenges of living aboard a vessel. You will leave with so many amazing friends and great memories that you will have the rest of your life! |
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