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7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indeed. three days after i arrived at my first job in china i was invited to a christmas celebration at a local middle school. only once the three of us accepted and arrived at the celebration were we informed we were to get up on stage and sing a song for the crowd. we sang "if youre happy and you know it....." and we were abysmal at it. i since dont accept invitations to those kind of celebrations.

one other time, just last year, i was asked to be a judge at a poetry contest. didnt see what could possibly go wrong with that, so i accepted. turns out at the end of the judging i was asked (unlike all chinese judges and despite my protests) to give my comments on all the readers onstage, with the microphone, and then to give a speech (on what they didnt specify, seems they just wanted me to speak).

now i simply decline all invitations to all gatherings, and usually dont even answer my phone when it rings if i dont see a name pop up with the number. and even if someone from the department catches me unawares at school to invite me somewhere, i have a ready made bag of excuses (some from my time in the army that work really well) Very Happy
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Anda



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

Get hold of the largest TV your school has and use a Christmas Santa DVD cost 8 RMB and get the kids to repeat things after you and use the pause button to capture things so the kids half understand what you say.

Everyone will be happy and you will get more help from management when you need it. So is life.
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kungfucowboy83



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all i can say is "charlie brown holiday specials" and tell them if you don't have a computer and projector you can't do it.
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malu



Joined: 22 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikuk wrote:
I always thought that the above behaviour was one of the only ways an ordinary China FT could promote their rather flimsy career hopes - isn't it called being the good monkey Laughing Laughing Laughing


The only sure way is to look like a good monkey (but always have an urgent appointment ready as an excuse) and use your time finding a better deal elsewhere.
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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indeed. three days after i arrived at my first job in china i was invited to a christmas celebration at a local middle school. only once the three of us accepted and arrived at the celebration were we informed we were to get up on stage and sing a song for the crowd. we sang "if youre happy and you know it....." and we were abysmal at it

To be fair on our local overlords - some of them may actually believe that we enjoy doing this kind of stuff. After all a career minded local teacher may jump on the chance to be allowed to go up on the stage and play at being important - and then round the whole thing off with being able to sniff around and please their employers (better gaunxi - everything and all for gaunxi). Such is the world of Chinese careers - a world many of us choose to give a wide berth!!!!
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aussie

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The word �Christmas� comes from two other words that have been joined together. The first word is �Christ� which means Jesus Christ, 耶稣基督, and the second word is �mass� which means a religious celebration, 宗教庆祝仪式.


Why does your "hanzi" show up as Hanzi on any computer, but other people "including me" use hanzi only shows up as characters on my computer were I downloaded software to recognize hanzi?
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lostinasia



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because you don't know what you're doing?
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Angel46



Joined: 06 Jan 2005
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Location: Hangzhou

PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Suckered in! Reply with quote

I want to thank everyone for their kind (unkind) replies and offers of advice.

I should point out that I have lived in China for 4 years now and am well versed in saying "No" to the many invitations I receive, on a daily basis. I said "yes" to this event simply because I didn't want to let the FAO Director down. I really like my university and would like to stay here another year.

Anyway, after several days of requests for more details, I discovered my role is totally different from that originally relayed to me. And now I feel it is too late to cancel without causing the Director to 'lose face' with her child's school.

As a matter of course, I have learned to always arrive prepared with teaching materials, as a last resort. But, this 'performance' is proving more difficult. It is the audience that worries me most: 6-16 year olds with varying levels of English.

I am going to take Aussie Guy's advice and 'borrow' his speech, albeit amending it somewhat, and perhaps I can teach them a song or two (I hope they can stand my voice - can't carry a tune at all!). And, since my 'performance' represents only a portion of the day's program, I cannot make certain demands, like moving 300 people to a large multi-media room for a 15-minute presentation, but thanks for your advice anyway.

And, oh yes, now they're talking about 'paying' me, so I feel I should deliver something worthwhile. Wish me luck, and thanks again to those who were kind enough to provide some advice/suggestions.
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lost
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Because you don't know what you're doing?


So maybe thta would be why people ask questions? Idea Idea Idea

Your cleverness and wit are only exceeded by your manners and your usefulness on this forum
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lostinasia



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop using the forum for your personal agenda of name calling, personal attacks, complaints, etc. That is what the PM system is for - per the rules.
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Super Frank



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know 20 mins will fly by once all the applause has died down.
In my second month I was driven 2 hours to do a demo and talk about my schools methodolgy. Arrived in a room of 200 or so high school students handed a microphone and left in the middle. Truely wanted the ground to swallow me up. I was asked the same question again and again (how do I improve my English?) I sang country roads and yellow submarine, sweated profusely then after an hour the mic was whipped out of my hand like the removal of a splinter.
I have also jumped out of a cupboard.

Take some pictures of snowmen, santa etc, elicit vocab from older students, teach younger ones, sing jingle bells and mention peace love and goodwill to all men. Take some sweets and give them out to deserved elfs.
I haven't mentioned Jesus coz thats up to you
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malu



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Years ago, in another country, I was asked if I would do a 'turn' in an awful talent show type event at school. Because I owed someone a favour it was difficult to say no, so instead I concocted a lewd drag act in the persona of 'Dame Ophelia Bitz' and told a few people of my plans.

Needless to say the powers that be couldn't get hold of me fast enough to ask if I might consider helping with the stage lighting instead.
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fitzgud



Joined: 24 Jan 2006
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Location: Henan province

PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lostinasia wrote:
Stop using the forum for your personal agenda of name calling, personal attacks, complaints, etc. That is what the PM system is for - per the rules.


That make me the most polite person in China, I have never had a PM. Or even Gordon Brown.
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AussieGuyInChina



Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why does your "hanzi" show up as Hanzi on any computer, but other people "including me" use hanzi only shows up as characters on my computer were I downloaded software to recognize hanzi?
I've installed 2 Chinese - English - Chinese dictionaries on my computer both of which self-installed Chinese fonts, including system fonts. Maybe the answer.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Location: Blabbing

PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pinyin would be a lot more helpful that splashing a bunch of hanzi everywhere.

Great that you know hanzi, gratz. But not helpful to him.

Man, don't do the gig. The people organizing it are making money from it somehow down the line. You are helping them to make money, and you are not getting any piece of that pie, friend.

You are being used.

Don't let them do it.

Tell them politely "I am sorry, but this is not what I expected. I expected to be a part of the audience, not be the main attraction."
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