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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I don't hear 'diga' very much here except at some businesses when you call. Almost like saying ' I'm busy, hurry up'.
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| Seriously, though, not all Immigration offices will issue a work permit to a non-related degree and this shouldn't be breezed over casually as it could be a real problem for someone down the road. |
This is true...each office is different. An employer would be the one to let you know how the office in their area handles it. I've found most offices around the country to be fairly relaxed, with only Chiapas being extra strict, though I haven't dealt with every office in vast Mexico.
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| If you pay 20 dollars, don't expect the service to do more than send out your resume to their list of schools. |
Sounds like something we've seen before here, no?  |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| My experience in Mexico has been that people answer the phone with "Bueno". In Spain, however, "Diga" is used. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Dixie wrote:
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| but the service that was linked does not even promise that they will place an individual with a school who will cover/assist in obtaining a work permit |
Could be because not all those who come to Mexico to teach can qualify for work permits, or at least not in all areas of the country. Just reading this forum tells us that there are plenty of teachers, in Mexico City alone, working illegally. Why is that? |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say there are simply a lot of employers that will hire teachers to work under the table. You'd see it in greater numbers in larger cities because there are more employers and more teachers. I would assume it's more difficult for an employer to hide the fact they are employing someone without working papers in a small town. I saw this in a small Chiapan town where everyone knows everyone else, especially on the family level. That, and migra hunts Central Americans in the region.
Level of qualification would have to depend on the job and the migra office, and I think most importantly, the employer's relationship to that office. Is a master's degree in photography, for example, in any way related to teaching English? Depends on the case you make with the migra office. The lawyer at Westhill Institute (private primary/secondary school) in DF would have a considerably easier time convincing migra of that than would a Wall St Institute (corporate language school) service manager. Even the reverse could still be true. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I think I'd also say that the number of teachers working illegally has more to do with the number of schools who either think it is too much of a hassel to help teachers get FM3s or are evading their taxes so cannot help teachers without first cleaning up that situation, than it does with the qualifications of English teachers in Mexico. |
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Oreen Scott

Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 179 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: Inexpensive Hotel |
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A ways up this post it was suggested a stay in an inexpensive hotel would be a good idea when seeking employment.
My research suggests $25/night is reasonable. Am I on the mark or off mark? |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| There are back-packer style hotels in my area for $15.00 a night which are clean and safe. These can probably be found in most areas other than perhaps the big cities. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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DF abounds with such hostels, and GDL has at least three that are decent.
If staying a month, many will give you a better rate. Just ask about it. |
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dsherter
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: Legalities |
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First - thanks to all replies - to original post or otherwise. A few more concrete questions
1)Re: working legally - am I right in understanding that this is strictly a question of obtaining a work permit? What seems to be the usual process, and how likely/unlikely to happen?
2)What is the best legal source for additional information on getting
legal work-status in Mxco - ? Mexican consulate?
3) I understand from other streams that working illegally keeps instructors more vulnerable to being cheated - thoughts?
OK...so what's a weasel? Could check altavista but this is so much more magic 8 ball.
Thanks in advance |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Legalities |
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1)Re: working legally - am I right in understanding that this is strictly a question of obtaining a work permit? What seems to be the usual process, and how likely/unlikely to happen?
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This forum has plenty of information to answer your question. There have been some lengthy recent discussions. Search in the Mexico forum for "FM3". Note that an FM3 isn't a work permit as such (this is sometimes a point of confusion), but rather a visa authorizing the holder to reside in Mexico. The particulars of the conditions under which s/he is allowed to do so (working for a specific employer, working independently, working as a volunteer, not working, retired under an independent source of income, etc.) will be specified in his/her FM3 visa booklet. It is possible to get one kind of FM3 and then if your circumstances change (e.g. a change of employer), apply to have these amended in the visa booklet.
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2)What is the best legal source for additional information on getting
legal work-status in Mxco - ? Mexican consulate? |
Note that other people's experiences (again, search this forum, too) suggest as far as actually obtaining the work-FM3 from a consulate abroad before you go to Mexico is concerned, it's virtually impossible. For official information from the government website on requirements for applying for visas and related stuff, see these pages:
http://www.inami.gob.mx/index.php?page/TRMITES_MIGRATORIOS_PERMANECER > http://www.inami.gob.mx/index.php?page/PERMANECER_MXICO_OBTENER%20EXPEDICION_FMS .
Edited to add: revisiting these links a couple weeks after posting, I find they are no longer active. Ni modo...
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you, notamiss, for that informative response. |
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dsherter
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, notamiss - concise and informative - very helpful - Thanks. |
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thecrit840
Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 33
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: cheap hotels |
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| Sometimes a cheap hotels is called a "posada;" I've stayed in a few of those that have been an excellent value. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| In my area, a posada is a party! |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Posada is both a party and an inn. The connection is that it's a Christmas party, to celebrate the period (Dec. 16�24, according to tradition) when Joseph and Mary were wandering around Bethelehem looking for room in an inn. |
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