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willynilly
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Not only are HCT teaching staff prefering to vote with their feet and resign this summer, but Emirati administartive staff are also deciding to quit and move to the 'real' public sector where they will get much more salary including the 70% extra from January's paypackets onwards. It seems the refusal of ministries, bureacrats etc to include the HCT in the public sector or be part of the UAE University's recent 25% raise is having quite an effect on staffing levels. It is not a happy camp at the moment within the HCT and if I were applying for a job and accepted I would definitely bargain upwards for my salary! (Not that the recruitment pool is bursting at the seams! far from it)  |
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uaeobserver
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The new cabinet was announced today.
MoE and MoHESR Ministers remain.
VC of UAEU tapped for Ministry of Justice.
Another individual from UAEU has been tapped for Minister of State.
No word on any other changes. |
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mishmumkin
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| It seems the refusal of ministries, bureacrats etc to include the HCT in the public sector or be part of the UAE University's recent 25% raise is having quite an effect on staffing levels |
I was under the impression that the pay increase UAEU got last year only got most foundation teachers closer to the "competitive" rate of the otherse unis. Is this not so? How much are UAEU EAP teachers starting at? |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar
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HCT staff!! A plate full of cream cakes sitting on their belly doesn't stop them crying for more when a newcomer to the scene is allowed a slice ...
Couldn't they at least try to wipe the cream off their mouths before nosing the trough for more ... |
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Iamherebecause
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| I was under the impression that the pay increase UAEU got last year only got most foundation teachers closer to the "competitive" rate of the otherse unis. Is this not so? How much are UAEU EAP teachers starting at? |
Given that new EAP (sic) teachers won't be starting at UAEU until August we have to hazard a guess. My guess is that they will be put on slightly more than the established staff, as usual. And remember the 25% raise increased differentials between experienced staff and new arrivals. That said, apparently there haven't been many resignations by the mid-February deadline.
There has been talk of sorting out the UAEU 'payscale', but as there isn't a proper payscale at all for academic staff it will take a lot of creative thinking. |
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seven seas
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If teachers vote with their feet, then the management will have to increase pay.
Same as every situation, everywhere, since forever. |
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veiledsentiments
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| There has been talk of sorting out the UAEU 'payscale', but as there isn't a proper payscale at all for academic staff it will take a lot of creative thinking. |
This has been the talk for the last 15+ years, and I really don't see the problem. You set up a pay scale based on credentials and experience, and adjust everyone's salary to it. This ain't rocket science!!! A low-level accounting clerk could do it in a day including entering it into the computer system. And it should be for all Emirates MOHE tertiary institutions - HCT, ZU and UAEU. They are all doing the same basic job and they should all be on the same payscale.
But contracts allow them to keep underpaying the current staffs, and the only incentive for them to change is if most of the current teachers resign. And we all know that most teachers can't afford to stomp off into the sunset.
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Umm Banat
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Whilst the EFL teachers are not leaving in droves the other specialists are.
The answer to recruitment was to increase pay for the incomers - forgetting the established staff would then leave - which they are. However, pay is only one small issue now and misery is a bigger factor. |
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kiefer
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| misery is a bigger factor |
Do tell.
How about a top ten list? |
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kiefer
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Perhaps there are answers to the following questions buried deep within this forum, but since HCT's conditions seem to be a sumptuous moveable feast, I am wondering. . .
Do these rumours apply throughout the HCT system?
Are there campuses that applicants should avoid and other campuses that are maybe best kept secrets in the system?
How is Abu Dhabi compared to, say, Sharjah, or Dubai to Fujairah?
Are successful out-of-country interviewees told in advance where they will be posted?
A few years ago, I was offered a job with HCT in Madinat Zayed, and though it seemed to have a good reputation as far as HCT campuses go according to a thread on this forum, the distance between accommodations and work required a grueling commute. |
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uaeobserver
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If you want professional stability, and don't yearn weekend and evening distractions -- go for Fujairah or RAK.
The other campuses aren't that bad if you're teaching. They're hell if you're not.
Friday, since most announcements are made on Thursdays (at 4:00). |
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uaeobserver
Joined: 05 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Questions |
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| A few years ago, I was offered a job with HCT in Madinat Zayed, and though it seemed to have a good reputation as far as HCT campuses |
Not sure how a brand new campus (okay - year old campus) could have any reputation. Also kind of funny to hear "a few years ago" in the same sentence as "Madinat Zayed." |
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tek44
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| Please, lock this thread. It is as silly as the previous HCT thread. |
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kiefer
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| Yeah. Lock it. Move along. Nothing to see here folks. |
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bje
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| tek44 wrote: |
| Please, lock this thread. It is as silly as the previous HCT thread. |
If you're in the Philippines, this thread is presumably of minimal interest to you. Rather than your entreaty to 'please lock this thread', why not simply desist from reading it? |
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