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[scot47]

Too much emphasis on the role of the teacher. What about focusing on what makes a BAD STUDENT ?

[cmp45]

Bad student= poor upbringing/ poor home life/poor parenting

However one would certainly need to define what is meant by "bad"

I would think it starts at home...when the basics like respect, boundaries, commitments, ethics and morals have not been taught at home. They have not learned basic social skills and how to behave at school.

So basically its the parents fault, students are "bad".

[15yearsinQ8]

a 'bad teacher' probably spends too much time on Dave's
and has hundreds of posts

[15yearsinQ8]

i'm joking - ok?
a have 102 posts , so i'm an 'average' teacher, lol

[Tom Le Seelleur]

Goals and purpose
� Vague goals
� Context is unclear
� No sense of purpose
� Students unclear what they should be learning
� Resources forgotten

Planning
� Inappropriate strategies
� Students passive
� Activities are of dubious purpose
� Students lack interest

Content and presentation
� Too long
� Too fast
� No checking of learning
� Too much content
� Too thin
� Flat or distant

Atmosphere and relationships
� Poor rapport
� Unaware of student need
� Group dynamics inhibit learning

The student experience
� Individual needs are ignored
� A teacher centred approach
� Weak students are not discovered and supported
� Able students are not stretched

Resources, Objectives and Professionalism
� Resources are inadequate or inappropriate
� The environment inhibits learning
� Learning is not checked, or does not take place
� Lesson starts late and finishes early.
� Dress and manner is inappropriate

Tom

[The Lemon]

[rocketchild]

My many years of experience has drawn this conclusion without fail.

The teacher who runs around trying to desperately befriend the DEAN, and the management are usually the worst teachers I have ever met.

They are very concerned with keeping their jobs, and know that their teaching will be called into quesiton, but with JaCkO manager as their 'friend' they stand a better chance of not being 'observed', or replaced.


It is smart to be nice to your boss, but it's the ones who seem to run from office to office checking in daily to show a 'friendly face', then often sit down and belittle very qualified teachers from whom they feel threatened.

And who's to question them? Who knows that the good teachers are busy working, and not shoving knives deep into their colleagues backs.

Bad teacher, also the ones, who 'date' the underage students, or any students for that matter. Creepy creepy, seen it a lot it the GULF. Teacher gets students number and .....goes for a drive in their cars, tinted windows, easily influenced young minds, manipulated by the 'respected' teacher who is 'friends' with management.

BAD Teacher. Ya. Gross.

[Cleopatra]

Agree completely about those 'teachers' who desperately try (often successfully) to butter up management - they are invariably the ones who have had a lot of student complaints and feel the need to overcompensate by cultivating friends in high places.

[veiledsentiments]

[eha]

'Agree completely about those 'teachers' who desperately try (often successfully) to butter up management - they are invariably the ones who have had a lot of student complaints and feel the need to overcompensate by cultivating friends in high places.'

Yes to the first part; however, the second isn't necessarily true--- do you think these types only butter up management? They're famous for buttering up students too--- their students often get amazingly good results, and they in turn get astoundingly good evaluations from said students--- there's a lot of it about. How can local admins be so naive? Or is it expedient for them to have a handy source of gossip and flattery at their beck and call? No wonder the professional people have so much trouble!

[Cleopatra]

[ETG]

interesting VS that you used the word male, I have heard of more female teachers than males being inappropriate with students

[veiledsentiments]

We must have worked with different crowds then. In over 15 years in the Middle East, I heard of exactly one female who got involved with a student (actually students)... and that was in Cairo before I arrived in the early 80's. I had a couple of students who made a play, but I think the gales of laughter put them off.

And considering the gossipy nature and watchfulness of the other Gulf cities, word would definitely be out. There were a few younger male teachers who had problems with aggressive female students... a couple were 'not renewed' and another was sent to another city to a men's college. Whether anything inappropriate ever happened was in question.

I knew some women that 'dated' locals, but students? I never heard even a hint of such activity in Oman or the UAE at the places I taught. Things must have livened up since they have stopped requiring MAs.

VS

[cmp45]

[veiledsentiments]

No... it is normally a matter of age... it was rare to encounter a single woman teacher under 40, and some of them were even mature.

VS