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leslie



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sarahsmith70



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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Location: small-town mexico

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about flying out of DF? I live in the city now and like an idiot my tourist card expires next month three weeks before my primaria's holidays start. I'd hate to have to leave twice-it woud suck! My amigo told me I could just present the expired card and pay a fine of maybe more or less 500 pesos and get out that way. What think you?
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sarahsmith70 wrote:
What about flying out of DF? I live in the city now and like an idiot my tourist card expires next month three weeks before my primaria's holidays start. I'd hate to have to leave twice-it woud suck! My amigo told me I could just present the expired card and pay a fine of maybe more or less 500 pesos and get out that way. What think you?


That should probably work out fine (no pun intended) for you. Just don't tell the authorities at the airport that you've been working here while on a tourist visa!
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down here in the Southern part of the country, there are many military check points along the highways. I've been scolded many times for not having my FM3 or passport on me when the bus I was travelling on was routinely stopped just outside of Oaxaca City. Each time they said, if we catch you again we'll fine you, but never noted down my name and it was never the same guy twice and I seriously doubt if they would remember me.
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dixie



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
Down here in the Southern part of the country, there are many military check points along the highways. I've been scolded many times for not having my FM3 or passport on me when the bus I was travelling on was routinely stopped just outside of Oaxaca City. Each time they said, if we catch you again we'll fine you, but never noted down my name and it was never the same guy twice and I seriously doubt if they would remember me.


Do you carry a photocopy?
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back then, no. I only carried my university id with me!

But I kept forgetting my passport when I went to the bank, and the bank wouldn't take my university id as an id. So I figured since I've never been mugged here, it was fine to carry my real passport and FM with me, I have a little passport case that fits them both and I just keep that in my purse now. (now being since being a mom, so for the last 3 years)
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tglea



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same story here. I took a bus to Matamoros and walked across the border and walked back in a matter of minutes. I was carrying a tourist visa that had been expired for 3 months. Nobody ever asked to see it and I had to track down an immigration agent on the Mexican side to get my new visa. The worst part was was the US immigration agent. He was asking all sorts of questions and scanned by backpack. When I was getting my FM3, I was afraid that somehow they would discover that I overstayed or never turned in my original tourist visa. Nothing ever came of it and they gave me an FM3.

I now have a driver's license from Queretaro and that works great for the whole ID thing. Obviously it's accepted everywhere here as an official ID and I don't have to worry about losing my passport or FM3. Also, it's much easier to replace if I lose it.
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debmport



Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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Location: Guadalaholla

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, again thanks for all the helpful info!

As I understand, traveling and crossing by bus is relatively low risk and flying out is risky.

What about flying within the country? Are they likely to check documents then? I would like to fly to the border and cross by bus.
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bjcor



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This tread raises me a question about my situation.

I went to Mexico once on a tourist visa and when I left the country, nobody asked me to show my tourist card.

It's been more than 8 months since I left and I still have that paper so I'm wondering if I'm in trouble for keeping it or not having it stamped.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tglea wrote:
Same story here. I took a bus to Matamoros and walked across the border and walked back in a matter of minutes. I was carrying a tourist visa that had been expired for 3 months. Nobody ever asked to see it and I had to track down an immigration agent on the Mexican side to get my new visa. The worst part was was the US immigration agent. He was asking all sorts of questions and scanned by backpack. When I was getting my FM3, I was afraid that somehow they would discover that I overstayed or never turned in my original tourist visa. Nothing ever came of it and they gave me an FM3.

I now have a driver's license from Queretaro and that works great for the whole ID thing. Obviously it's accepted everywhere here as an official ID and I don't have to worry about losing my passport or FM3. Also, it's much easier to replace if I lose it.


I don't think INM really keeps track of tourists...Just too many of them and their system is antiquated.

About using a driver's license as an "official" ID: I know in the States and in may other countries a DL is accepted everywhere as an official ID. I've never had any major problems using my DF license, but the banks often won't accept anything but a passport/FM-3/2

I agree that it's a lot better to only lose a Mexican license than to risk losing your passport and FM-3
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you won't be in trouble. It's simply a card to turn in...no exit stamp needed on it or your passport.

Strange, but it seems to happen from time to time that people get out without needing to turn in the visa. I'll bet you flew out through Cancun, PV, or Acapulco?
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bjcor wrote:
This tread raises me a question about my situation.

I went to Mexico once on a tourist visa and when I left the country, nobody asked me to show my tourist card.

It's been more than 8 months since I left and I still have that paper so I'm wondering if I'm in trouble for keeping it or not having it stamped.


I don't think so. A friend of mine left with his FM-3 and never got it stamped or turned it in. He came back in and got a FM-T with no prob. Laughing
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Gringo Greg



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I am missing something on this thread, but I have made at least a dozen bus trips to el norte from el df in the last 10 years. There are many checkpoints along the way where friendly military/police come on board to look for central americanos. They usually do a quick check of ID and at least several times I have been asked to show my FMT.

I have always been legal, but I do wonder what would happen if I wasn't. After spending 6 days in a jail in Tapachula for sitting on the bus next to someone without an FMT, I am gunshy about not having proper paperwork.
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jfurgers



Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gringo Greg wrote:
Maybe I am missing something on this thread, but I have made at least a dozen bus trips to el norte from el df in the last 10 years. There are many checkpoints along the way where friendly military/police come on board to look for central americanos. They usually do a quick check of ID and at least several times I have been asked to show my FMT.


Everytime I have returned to the States on a bus, we're stopped by the military. It's always in the middle of the night. But everytime this has happened, the driver is the only one who gets off the bus. He talks with them and opens the compartment where the luggage is located so the dogs can sniff around.
But they have never come on the bus. I just keep my tourist visa in my pocket while on the bus. That way there will be no problem with ID's. They never check anything in new laredo so I just throw away the tourist visa once I get home. For some reason the bus I'm on is never stopped by the military when I'm going to DF. Only when we're coming back to the States.
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason the tourist card must be turned in at airports is because it is tied to the accounting which ensures the airline pays the Government of Mexico for that tourist card. Remember all those taxes on the ticket you buy outside Mexico? One of those taxes is your tourist card fee and it must be paid to Mexico by the airline that collected it.

When you cross into Mexico by land you pay the tourist card fee then and there. It's the fee they are concerned with, not the return of the tourist card. If you are found without a valid tourist card in Mexico, that's a different matter.
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