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coledavis
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 Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: taxation |
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| I agree with Kootvela that it is quite right and proper to pay taxes when you're earning. They are more likely to assist in a maintaining a civilised country, even if one does have doubts about how the revenue is used. |
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rusmeister
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: Re: taxation |
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| coledavis wrote: |
| I agree with Kootvela that it is quite right and proper to pay taxes when you're earning. They are more likely to assist in a maintaining a civilised country, even if one does have doubts about how the revenue is used. |
Spoken like a true resident of a civilized country! 
Coming from a country where rule of law really has been the tradition (the good ol' USA), it has never been easy for me to deal with aspects here that are much less based on such tradition. Russians are much more laconical about it and say things like "Don't worry, be happy", even when they complain about it. In the states it is, on the whole, made easy to obey the law. Here it is made much more difficult to do that. Just look at how traffic tickets are paid. All the crackdowns over the years have been nothing more than symbolic at best. |
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coledavis
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry if I'm being a big dense here, but should parking enforcement (or extortion) really affect your attitude towards paying income tax? |
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BELS
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: taxation |
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| rusmeister wrote: |
| coledavis wrote: |
| I agree with Kootvela that it is quite right and proper to pay taxes when you're earning. They are more likely to assist in a maintaining a civilised country, even if one does have doubts about how the revenue is used. |
Spoken like a true resident of a civilized country!
Coming from a country where rule of law really has been the tradition (the good ol' USA), it has never been easy for me to deal with aspects here that are much less based on such tradition. Russians are much more laconical about it and say things like "Don't worry, be happy", even when they complain about it. In the states it is, on the whole, made easy to obey the law. Here it is made much more difficult to do that. Just look at how traffic tickets are paid. All the crackdowns over the years have been nothing more than symbolic at best. |
I cannot see the difference between the two countries. You can't work in the USA with out a green card. For example it's a lot easier for a Brit to work as teacher in Russia or most countries in the world apart from The USA. All you need is the work contract and invitation. It is assumed that the employer will pay for your taxes automatically.
If you are talking about working being self employed in Russia, then you can't unless you have residency and have registered with the tax office. The advantage of the entepeneurs license is that you only pay 6% taxes.
Is it any easier in the USA for a foreigner? No it isn't. It's more difficult. Can I go to USA with a visa and go and do a bit of freelance teaching as a Brit for example, no I can't, and soon be caught and thrown out. |
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maruss
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: Is it worth it? |
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| As Bels quite rightly said,you can no longer go to Russia and teach freelance without paying tax etc. but the main problem is that most of the firms that can get you a work permit and register you legally with the tax office etc. pay lousy wages,often with conditions to boot!It could be argued that as a result,most of the ex-pat teachers who you now find there will be the 'backpackers' or people who go there for a short time just to experience Russia.The exceptions are people like Bels and Rusmeister who are married to locals and live there continually..... |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| And hence have residency and can register as self employed with 6% tax deductions. We don't need to apply visas or registration, we have a special stamp on the back of our passports. |
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macedonianmike
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Most teachers I know here in Siberia have their visas and register with one school but do private lessons on the side and work for other schools as well. I haven't heard of any problems. Might be different in different cities... |
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BELS
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| macedonianmike wrote: |
| Most teachers I know here in Siberia have their visas and register with one school but do private lessons on the side and work for other schools as well. I haven't heard of any problems. Might be different in different cities... |
No problem, they probably won't be noticed and there's no visa 90 days problem if they have a school contract.
However, private work without informing the tax office is illegal and it always has been. But it hasn't stopped them in the past, and it won't stop them now.
After all they need this private work to enhance their miserable wage.
Yes, same applies to Moscow. |
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