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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of these comments have given me grounds for deeper contemplation. Curently, I have homework as 33% of students's grades, and I mark it (or check it), but I am considering not assigning as much and instead relying on more in class assessments.

Why?

Well, in my case, some 13/19 of my classes are primarily oral focused.

Where do students get the most chance to speak?

Well primarily in their English classes, for most of them.

So I am considering lowering the % for homework to a lesser amount, perhaps like 10% or so. Of course, I could also combine the homework/and classwork grades, something I do somewhat already (some of the homework is started in class, hence it's half classwork, half homework).

As to deadlines, yes, I follow Glenski's line of thought and require students to get homework assignments form other class members.
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Oral classes are a different game.

It is very difficult to assign homework for oral classes as stated....the students basically get the majority of their practice in class.... Where I teach there is no homework assigned for oral classes!

Oral is practiced 100% inclass as well as testing. However emphasis is on partcipation. I do encourage that they practice what they have learned at home when ever they can. I also give them exercises to practice at home, and then we go through it in class. One can generally tell if they have been practicing at home.

As for reading, writing and grammar courses- homework is an essential part of the learning process. The home work gives a student an opprotunity to learn what they did in class. It also helps them to take 'some' responsibility in their own learning.

Also I agree that too much homework can be non-productive as too little...
therefore it is good to strike a balance and hopefully the right amount will help not hinder a student's learning.
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i give oral english homework for maybe the first five weeks of class for a couple of reasons.
One of my goals is to teach them to use "new" words when the talk to each other
and to use longer sentences when they talk to each other
and to practice follow up questions when they talk to each other

The few best can do this fairly easy. I think I have found that having all of the students write a dialogue allows them to try it for themself in an environment that has less pressure and gives them more time to figure out how to make longer sentences using new words (new words, word they may know but rarely use, or truly new words they are studying from another class or self study)

Then when they come to class, it is something they feel they can do.. it starts becoming a habit. So by week 6, when a student says "yes" (an answer I never allow in oral english) all I have to do is roll my eyes, and the other students will say, "longer sentence! New Words!" i want this neural habit embedded firmly. then everything becomes easier.
Best way to practice grammar? Longer sentences!

But giving too much homework is problematical. I ask my students how much time they are spending, and ask myself how much time i a m spending on homework.
if I am spending every evening correcting homwework, then that is too much homework! Razz That's my balance

I also grade oral homework almost purely on effort. They are truly delighted when I make corrections on their papers though many of their teachers never bother


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cmp45



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arioch36 wrote:

if I am spending every evening correcting homwework, then that is too much homework! Razz That's my balance

I also grade oral homework almost purely on effort. They are truly delighted when I make corrections on their papers thoug, many of their teachers never bother


I agree with your statements. It seems counter productive if the teacher assigns homework and then doesn't make corrections or comments on the student's paper.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One of my goals is to teach them to use "new" words when the talk to each other
and to use longer sentences when they talk to each other
and to practice follow up questions when they talk to each other



Definitely! Getting students to not give robotic answers to opinion questions (in other words, think!!) is on my list of priorities for this term.

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I do encourage that they practice what they have learned at home when ever they can. I also give them exercises to practice at home, and then we go through it in class. One can generally tell if they have been practicing at home.


Yes, sometimes it's dialogue writing, but also reviewing vocabulary we've learned, etc. I've heard many mixed opinions about giving homework, but certainly it does help, and my classes are part reading/writing/speaking/listening, though I would say most Japanese students struggle with speaking and listening the most.

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Best way to practice grammar? Longer sentences!


Not always. Some students will give fine concise answers, but will muck it up when they combine them. of course our goal is to have students be able to use both naturally, but that doesn't come in a semester, at least for my lower level students it doesn't.
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Best way to practice grammar? Longer sentences!


Not always. Some students will give fine concise answers, but will muck it up when they combine them. of course our goal is to have students be able to use both naturally, but that doesn't come in a semester, at least for my lower level students it doesn't
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No, it is just one method. However , worst way to practice grammar ... one word answers!
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Jetgirly



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealing With Homework Reply with quote

I teach wealthy, entitled teenagers in Mexico. Really, what I do doesn't matter much because ultimately they get whatever mark they want by begging administration, but I still try to help them along on the road to maturity.

jestert79 wrote:


1) Students who were absent last class and didn't know the HW.


On the first day, I lay out the ground rules. If you are absent, you must find out what the homework was from a classmate. If you will not be able to hand in the homework on the day of your return, a note from your parents is required.

jestert79 wrote:

2) Students who just wrote gibberish in the gaps to make it look like they did it.

Not an issue as my students have another class specifically for grammar. I teach Reading and Writing, so I don't give out little gap-fill or fill-in-the-blank assignments. I give out a small number of large assignments.

jestert79 wrote:
3) Maintaining classroom control while going around the class checking for 1 and 2.

Another non-issue, as I collect all homework at the beginning of class and mark it at home, using it to record attendance as well. Students who don't finish the homework give me sheets of blank paper with their name and the date on it to make sure they receive attendance marks. The blank sheet serves as a record that they were there and their homework was not.

jestert79 wrote:

4) Actually getting them to correct their own mistakes - I give them an answer key and they just shrug and stuff it in their workbooks.

It's a bit different in my class, but I teach writing as a process. Students have to submit their first copy attached to their final copy, and their FINAL copy has to be underlined or highlighted everywhere they made changes. I then check that against their first drafts to make sure that they actually went through some kind of editing process.

jestert79 wrote:

5) Peer correction doesn't quite work if 1/3 of the class hasn't done the HW.

I collect the work before peer corrections, and make a list of people who haven't done the work. On the day we do the peer corrections, I write the names of those who haven't done the assignment on the board and have them sit in one section of the classroom. They do or redo the assignment while the other students are doing the peer marking.

jestert79 wrote:

6) I COULD collect workbooks at certain times, but in the end it's very time-consuming to have a big stack of workbooks to check through.

My students have to purchase their own textbooks, so I give them the choice of doing their homework on a seperate sheet and handing it in, or ripping the page out of their book and handing that in. Most enjoy ripping pages from books. I spent hours and hours each week marking... but it's no different from teaching high school in Canada.

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I also have students who are double-booked during my class. That is, they have another class, for marks, at exactly the same time. Usually it is one of their fun electives, which they would prefer to attend. The school allows them to choose which class they will go to, but both are for marks! (Yes, I know this is EXTREMELY F-ING STUPID). For these kids, I have contracts that they sign that stipulate:

- If they choose to attend their other class, they may not ask me anything about what we did in class that day or the homework
- They must write the name and phone number of two classmates who are not double-booked who they can call that evening to find out what the homework was
- They will not receive extensions on homework, but they can hand in in-class assignments to me at the beginning of the next period
- They will not receive participation marks for that period

The contracts are signed by me, the students, their two classmates and one member of administration (who probably can't read it anyways).
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