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KAU Salary, Living Costs, Saving
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gjeo



Joined: 22 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds interesting. I am not qualified to teach Maths or Science at school. Can teach ESL. Can you send more details? Any opportunity in colleges/universities?

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windstar



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does visa process worK? I have got an offer too but it says higher authorities should approve and visa will be issued in my home country. Any ideas?
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gjeo



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: How does visa process worK? Reply with quote

I believe we need to wait till the university sends a 'number' that we could refer to, when we approach the Embassy at our home country. The certificates have to be verified by the HRD and MEA as well, before we submit them at ther Embassy for approval. Which country do you belong to?

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windstar



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am from canada but currently teaching in the ME. I was just wondering if it could be finalized in this little country.
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gjeo



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: visa Reply with quote

Sorry, I have no idea about that. I think they need the certificates approved by the Embassy in your country. But if you have already done that for your present job, things may be easier for you. I hope someone here would help you with the right information.
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se_bocere



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
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Location: Mancs

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, I work at KAU. The salary increase has been approved and it really doesn't matter if you have a BA, MA, or PhD, since all the salaries will be the same.

The only thing that I would watch out for is your years of experience. They mention that two years of non-university experience will count as one year of experience. If the working period is less than 365 days (or the hijri equivalent) then it will not count as a year - even if it is an academic year. Additionally, no one will receive a letter detailing their salary until you arrive, so you had better get all your experience certificates in working order (i.e. attested by the Saudi embassy).

Once you arrive, be prepared to not be met by anyone at the airport - even though they say that they will meet you. I would recommend staying at Jeddah Plaza for the first month or so, because you will not get your housing allowance, or furniture allowance, until you have signed your contact, and more importantly, until you have received an iqama. Therefore, bring plenty of money beforehand; at least 10,000 SAR should be fine.

The working hours mentioned are 18+, but I work only 16 - if that much. The hours are pretty relaxed. Additionally, no one really knows what they are doing here - teaching wise - because the syllabus is very disorganized - e.g. the EAP book is completely pointless and their general EFL books are too difficult for most of the students. Plus, the students never bring their books. Most of the people have power trips here; especially the Egyptians who have PhDs that don't speak English very well, or those who have PhDs from non-western countries - the rest - who are just as ridiculous. *Sorry if I have offended anyone*

Other than that, I would consider another University to be honest. The only benefit to being here is the close proximity to Mecca and Madinah - which is why I am still at KAU. Next year I am leaving, but I would recommend KAU for anyone looking for a first experience in Saudi Arabia, or as a stepping stone to another job.
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gjeo



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Thanks a lot! Reply with quote

Thank you very much for all that information. That's exactly what I was looking for. I have a few more doubts which I will IM you, if you don't mind.
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windstar



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: letter of experience Reply with quote

Thanks for your valuable information. I have one simple question though. I have worked at a university for straight 8 years and a college for another year in addition to other teaching positions at different institutions. Do you know if I should provide letters of experience from each and every one of these institutions?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: letter of experience Reply with quote

windstar wrote:
Do you know if I should provide letters of experience from each and every one of these institutions?

If I had them, I would provide them. Some places in the Gulf use them to set salary, so it couldn't hurt, but might help. Why would you not provide one, if you had it?

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gjeo



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Experience Reply with quote

Re: "Do you know if I should provide letters of experience from each and every one of these institutions?"


Yes, you could provide reference for extra experience. Please do note that the maximum years of experience the university would count for setting the salary scale is 5 years in the university level. However, they also mention that a 50% increase in the scale will be given for those with exceptionally good qualifications.
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windstar



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot. My concern is to collect them in the same format as Saudi Embassy wants. If they will only take 5 years into consideration, then the rest of the other years will not bring anything, it seems.
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se_bocere



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Experience Reply with quote

gjeo wrote:
Yes, you could provide reference for extra experience. Please do note that the maximum years of experience the university would count for setting the salary scale is 5 years in the university level. However, they also mention that a 50% increase in the scale will be given for those with exceptionally good qualifications.


Let me tell you the salary breakdown just to be clear. First of all, the basic salary is 4060 + years of experience (up to 5 years - this is the ceiling by the way!), then they add 100% to this with an added 500 (not included in the 100%) for transportation. That's what everyone gets.
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cloud909



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings!
I would like to thank se_bocere for sharing some important information about working at KAAU. His post answered some of the questions I've been meaning to ask.

Cheers!
Cloud909
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gjeo



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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: salary lowered? Reply with quote

It seems the salary is lowered again. The university site shows 2 different salary scales in two of its links now.The HRA and Furniture Allowance is now based on one's qualifications (BA/MA/PhD). There is no personal intimation after the letter that claimed to give a higher salary. Any idea how to deal with this situation?
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lall



Joined: 30 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: salary lowered? Reply with quote

gjeo wrote:
It seems the salary is lowered again. The university site shows 2 different salary scales in two of its links now.The HRA and Furniture Allowance is now based on one's qualifications (BA/MA/PhD). There is no personal intimation after the letter that claimed to give a higher salary. Any idea how to deal with this situation?


1) Be prepared to be placed at the lower, if not the lowest end of the scale, since you are a first timer not to mention the fact that you are Indian. Unfortunately, discrimination by race exists in the Gulf. I'm Indian, too and therefore know.

2) Do not bring your wife in with you, when you first come. You may consider it later.

3) If you feel that you need clarification on how much you will actually get, I suggest you call up (as opposed to sending email) first and give the person your details and tell them that you will call after an hour or so, which should give the person enough time to gather information on the subject. Keep in mind the time difference. If I'm not mistaken, Saudi is 2 hours ahead of GMT. Don't call on a Thursday or on a Saturday. Never on a Friday (as if you didn't know that) Smile

4) Bring in at least SR 4,000/-. You'll need it.
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