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Which school has the best deal in Russia for teachers?
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BELS



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hughesie wrote:
BELS wrote:
hughesie wrote:
BELS wrote:
And what about the company car, a BMW or a Rangerover ? Which do yoo prefer?


Nah, the only make I'm bothered about is Zanussi! Cool


It's a deal Smile Are they good enough for russian roads Smile


I don't know, why would you put a washing machine on a Russian road? Shocked


Aah! it's a washing machine you are talking about, and Zanussi aven't manged to produce cars yet??
With Russian flats I will have to recommend a mini Candy for Russian flats, they are small but great. and go under the washbasin. great for Russian fats, the sink is incuded with the installation of the washing machine Smile

Sorry, you will have to do with a Candy. I've had mine for a year now, and they are great, and fitted inside our tiny bathroom, which makes more space for other things in our small kitchen, such as space for a big fridge for our nice cold beers:)
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: What? Reply with quote

BELS -

I think hughesie got you on that one! I'm still laughing about putting a washer on the road!

Good one, hughesie
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: What? Reply with quote

zeke0606 wrote:
BELS -

I think hughesie got you on that one! I'm still laughing about putting a washer on the road!

Good one, hughesie


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BELS



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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wait ! There will be a Zanussi on the road one day, probably well before they have them in BKC or LL flats.
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been working at a "Mac" school for three years. During this time, I have managed to get married (and pay for the wedding), have a gorgeous son (well, my wife had him Wink ), buy a flat (mortgage payments will finish in the next year or two), and return home once a year to see my loved ones.
I'm in no way saying mine is typical experience working for this type of establishment (I must mention here that my wife is a Russian professional--but I do make more than she does), but it IS possible to have a "residential" life (my permanent residency is almost through the tube, as well) while working for a "Mac" chain.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two incomes often turn the trick Very Happy Not to mention the fact that marrying a local puts you on an entirely different footing in terms of residency status and mortgage possibilities.
It's trying to make it work as a single adult in a foreign country that is most difficult.

But, good for you - you've made a real life out of it (as I have: the same way as you, by marrying a foreigner and doing it together)
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spiral-
Oh, I definitely agree with you, and I hope I didn't come off as "working for a "Mac" School offers you all these possibilities in every case"--we all know that isn't true. I was simply trying to illustrate that it is possible to work for a "Mac" School and have a comfortable life here in Russia (as BELS had written to the contrary).
I wasn't trying to throw my shoulder out patting myself on the back, either... Laughing
BTW, good for you!!
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maruss



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Vladivostok v Moscow Reply with quote

There is no way you could support a family on BKC wages in Moscow,even if you were lucky enough to find a Russian girlfriend with her own appartment etc!(not that ex-pat teachers on those kind of wages are likely to attract chique,clued-up Muscovite younger women who can easily find local guys with enough money to give them a good time!!)
In any case,unless I was lucky enough to live somewhere like Bels who is outside the smog and grime,I wouldn't want to bring-up a family there anyway and would be aiming to escape from Moscow...
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BELS



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpvanderwerf2001 wrote:
Spiral-
Oh, I definitely agree with you, and I hope I didn't come off as "working for a "Mac" School offers you all these possibilities in every case"--we all know that isn't true. I was simply trying to illustrate that it is possible to work for a "Mac" School and have a comfortable life here in Russia (as BELS had written to the contrary).
I wasn't trying to throw my shoulder out patting myself on the back, either... Laughing
BTW, good for you!!


The only way you can live comfortably on BKC contract income is if you have also got sufficient private customers to teach also. And I think most of the regular employees do this.

Just three or more extra private students might just double your income.

BKC has not risen its wages in line with the massive true inflation over the past four years, when the income was already too low, now it's ludicrous. However they are not alone in offering ridiculous income, other language schools are doing it.

However their freelance offers of 1500 rubles to 2500 rubles for freelancers are not bad. But you need to be an experienced resident to take freelance, not a newbie.
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BELS



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
Two incomes often turn the trick Very Happy Not to mention the fact that marrying a local puts you on an entirely different footing in terms of residency status and mortgage possibilities.
It's trying to make it work as a single adult in a foreign country that is most difficult.

But, good for you - you've made a real life out of it (as I have: the same way as you, by marrying a foreigner and doing it together)


Watch out when your partner becomes pregnant, and there is only one income Smile And your child grows up to a be hyper-active kid needing 100% attention. OOPS! we all have to grow up sometime. And then your partner becomes bored and wants to work! OOPS ! Time for the cost of a Nanny!!
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BELS wrote:
jpvanderwerf2001 wrote:
Spiral-
Oh, I definitely agree with you, and I hope I didn't come off as "working for a "Mac" School offers you all these possibilities in every case"--we all know that isn't true. I was simply trying to illustrate that it is possible to work for a "Mac" School and have a comfortable life here in Russia (as BELS had written to the contrary).
I wasn't trying to throw my shoulder out patting myself on the back, either... Laughing
BTW, good for you!!


The only way you can live comfortably on BKC contract income is if you have also got sufficient private customers to teach also. And I think most of the regular employees do this.

Just three or more extra private students might just double your income.

BKC has not risen its wages in line with the massive true inflation over the past four years, when the income was already too low, now it's ludicrous. However they are not alone in offering ridiculous income, other language schools are doing it.

However their freelance offers of 1500 rubles to 2500 rubles for freelancers are not bad. But you need to be an experienced resident to take freelance, not a newbie.


I don't work for BKC, I work for EF. I will say that my salary is quite generous, although I can't/won't say it's typical for EF or any other large chain school.
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