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reactionary
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I think the real question is, "If a school does a background check, will they find this offense on 2fingaz's record?"
I really think the answer is no. Any background check conducted will be looking for a criminal record in his home country, not in Korea. |
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BigWally
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Location: Ottawa, CAN (prev. Kaohsiung "the Dirty South")
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| that is an enormous pig |
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forest1979
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| Sorrow or not 2fingaz it's very difficult to persuade Asian governments, including the one in Taiwan, that you deserve the chance to work in their country. The rules relating to drug offences are pretty unforgiving. |
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Dr_Zoidberg
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| reactionary wrote: |
Same as in Korea,obviously. The guy wants a second chance. And he's talking about marijuana, not heroin. Relax.
I would say you're OK to work in another country and hopefully you've learned your lesson - Asia's not lenient on "drugs" unless it's drinking and passing out on the street covered in vomit - that's ok. |
No, that's not ok either.
If this one hypothetical incident wasn't the hypothetical person's very first toke ever, then he/she is a hypothetical regular drug user. Those who whine about the consequences when they get caught can expect no sypmathy from me.
Want forgiveness? Ask Jesus. |
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reactionary
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^ He doesn't need sympathy from you. He needs to know if Taiwanese immigration will have any record of this.
My guess is no. |
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forest1979
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Guessing the answer to his predicament is not what he needs. He needs to know if they have hold of international criminal records, in which case he'd be stuffed. If any advice is to be given it's not guesses but maybe a subtle hint that no one here truly knows the answer. |
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reactionary
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Right. and they DON'T have access to "international criminal records" because no such thing exists. Look into the hiring process in Korea right now. They want criminal records from your home country. If there were some kind of international criminal records, there wouldn't be any hassle getting your records from state police, FBI, or the mounties. The Korean officials would just pull up your "international records" - but there's no such thing - YET. At least not for petty crap like smoking marijuana.
Even if jobs in Taiwan require a background check (do they? doesn't seem like it), they'll more than likely ask for your records from your home country, not from Korea.
I'd say get a job in Taiwan and go and find out. The worst thing that could happen, which I think is a VERY slight chance, is you won't land a job and you'll be sent back home again, maybe losing $1200 on flights. It's not like you're going to land there and you'll be thrown into jail or something - this isn't life or death stuff we're talking. There aren't cameras at airports scanning faces in the crowds looking for the guy that smoked marijuana so he can be detained.
"Sorry! You smoked marijuana in Korea! You can never travel anywhere ever again! Terrorist!"
Anyway, speaking of giving ambiguous advice, forest, weren't you the one who suggested S. America over Taiwan? Why would that be any better? Drug laws aren't anymore lenient over there. |
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NEP
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2fingaz, 2 cents for you, if you haven't worked out the move.
Now, this will probably sound like a fake hearsay story, but...one of my first (foreign) managers here in Taiwan HAD, in fact, been arrested in Korea for dealing drugs, spent 6 months in a Korean prison, and...well, then he was working at one the chain-schools in Taiwan. What have you decided? |
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enoch83
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| i dont know about specific schools, but for my company in taiwan, there was no criminal background check. there is not one required by the taiwanese gov't upon arrival either. |
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pest2
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| reactionary wrote: |
Same as in Korea,obviously. The guy wants a second chance. And he's talking about marijuana, not heroin. Relax.
I would say you're OK to work in another country and hopefully you've learned your lesson - Asia's not lenient on "drugs" unless it's drinking and passing out on the street covered in vomit - that's ok. |
Agreed. Marijuana a drug? At the same time ajoshis (old Korean men) getting so drunk they vomit all over the street and beat their submissive Korean wives OK by Korean law? Come on...
Plenty of you all who go out and get really drunk on a Friday or Saturday night proceed to walk into your schools to teach kids English the next Monday morning. What is the harm in that? Marijuana is LESS detrimental your body than alchohol, according to most studies... except, well, it is said to make your nads shrink if ur a guy.
That said, 2 wrongs dont make a right. Also, the OP should have known about the laws of Korea and the rest of Asia -- right or wrong -- before breaking those laws... Maybe he/she is more guilty of a violation of 'common sense' than anything else.
And yes, practically speaking, the Taiwan "visitor visa" does not require a criminal background check.
However, they will look at your passport before issuing both the visitor visa and the work permit/ARC.
OP: Does your passport have anything stamped in it such as "deported for drug violations"? Or, did they just escort you to the airport, hand you your passport with original unchanged E2 visa inside, and send you on your merry way?
If you just have "deported" stamped into the visa, it will probably be OK.. maybe.. unless they ask you why you were deported and, even worse, ask you to get a police background check paper issued from Korea (actually, I recently had to get such a paper from the Korean Embassy so I can become an Australian permanent resident later on.... to be a permanent resident of AUS u have to provide a background check from any country you have resided in for more than a year... so, yes, getting deported from countries for this kind of thing could burn your bridges later on down the road I guess)....
At any rate, the best thing for the OP to do would be to just go to a Taiwan Embassy or consulate in his/her home country and attempt to apply for the visitor visa... Tell them you intend to try to find a job teaching English... You will likely get your best answer that way. |
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stunnershades
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| I'm willing to bet you a five sack that you get in no problem, just don't tell any one. Tons of people confide in me their bad habits in Taiwan and even though the government has little patience for it, I'm willing to bet there's no international investigation put on you before you receive an ARC. If that were so, I know quite a few Russians who are getting deported too for working under false pretenses. (let the poster responses give you an indication of the type of people here [go to Japan]) |
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