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Pre-employment contract breakage by either party
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flutterbayou



Joined: 01 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: cancel Reply with quote

Yes, we understand that you are not yet in the country.

Sorry if our conversation confused you.

You would have no trouble cancelling one and getting another offer accepted. People change their minds and the Chinese do not count on anyone until they actually show up.

But once they send you their letter of invitation, they consider themselves as bargained for the exchange and will live up to the agreement, as long as the z visa is approved.
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Jordean



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the feedback. I don't want to irritate any potential employers. My concern is more that I don't get left hanging if someone else catches a would-be employer's eye. There was a story along these lines last year here, but maybe that is the exception. There's always Korea!
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Teatime of Soul



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a nontrivial bit of bother, cost and time involved in sending you your invitation letter. Thus, it is hard to imagine a school swapping candidates mid process.

That is, provided the school is sincerely trying to hire you versus simply having a beauty contest.

Also, once your invitation letter is sent, the school is responsible for you when you arrive on their letter.

Even fast tracking a single letter of invitation, it takes about a minimum of ten days to get from you accepting the job and the invitation getting into the hand of the mainland express courier company's hand.

Be sure to ask to be notified of when your invitation letter is sent, and the web tracking number.

Best of luck.
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jeffinflorida



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
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Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about this:

You are in country. Go to a school make a deal in May to Work in September. Sign the contract, still working at another school under contract, then go to the future school, see the living conditions and decide they are not suitable, and decide to work at a different school?

Contract is signed, they didn't get you a new Z yet but did get you a new FEC book.

Is it ok to tell the school you decided not to work there?

Still early for them to find a new ft.

Should you expect any problems because you signed a contract but don't have to work for 3 months?
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Jordean



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teatime of Soul wrote:
There is a nontrivial bit of bother, cost and time involved in sending you your invitation letter. Thus, it is hard to imagine a school swapping candidates mid process.

That is, provided the school is sincerely trying to hire you versus simply having a beauty contest.

Also, once your invitation letter is sent, the school is responsible for you when you arrive on their letter.

Even fast tracking a single letter of invitation, it takes about a minimum of ten days to get from you accepting the job and the invitation getting into the hand of the mainland express courier company's hand.

Be sure to ask to be notified of when your invitation letter is sent, and the web tracking number.

Best of luck.


A minimum of ten days is putting it mildly, employer A had all my papers more than a month ago and I'm still waiting. Supposedly it's coming any day now! I stopped waiting for the mailman a week or two ago...
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profM



Joined: 18 Jun 2005
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Location: in political exile

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a very nice FAO in a very good state school my first entry into China from the USA and she assured me that one month was normal time for them to get the letter of invitation authorized by the government and get it to you. I think anyone who says something different in any kind of definitive way is either mistaken account of an exceptional experience or is a psyop entry.
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Teatime of Soul



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

profM wrote:
I had a very nice FAO in a very good state school my first entry into China from the USA and she assured me that one month was normal time for them to get the letter of invitation authorized by the government and get it to you. I think anyone who says something different in any kind of definitive way is either mistaken account of an exceptional experience or is a psyop entry.


Perhaps things are exceptional where I'm at, but 10-14 days is the norm for getting the letter of invitation completed and into the mail. Mail takes 4-6 days usually via EMS.

This is hardly exceptional, unless a dozen in a row that I can recall would be somehow exceptional.

Having seen this personally, I suppose I can say this in a definitive way.

Your experience, of course, may vary.
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h-train



Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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Location: 26 miles from Bahrain

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jordean wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback. I don't want to irritate any potential employers. My concern is more that I don't get left hanging if someone else catches a would-be employer's eye. There was a story along these lines last year here, but maybe that is the exception. There's always Korea!

Ha ha... yes, there's always Korea-and I'm leaving here in 25 days to go back to China... inshallah...
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