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Sunburnt Individual
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 91
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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They are absolutely desperate for anyone at all, but it looks like they'd want you for an AQC (kind of like a principal) position. That's an interesting change of pace because those positions always, without fail, go to an Arab national, usually Lebanese or Jordanian.
I would strongly advise you to check out the following links to hear about people's experiences with the PPP. Most of us applied for Choueifat positions and ended up in the PPP through information blackouts or outright lies.
http://sabisstinks.wordpress.com/
http://www.sabis-warning.com/ |
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mishmumkin
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 929
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I would strongly advise you to check out the following links to hear about people's experiences with the PPP. Most of us applied for Choueifat positions and ended up in the PPP through information blackouts or outright lies. |
So the k-12 positions w/in CHoueifat pay the same as the PPP positions? The salary quoted by the OP is MUCH higher than the average ACQ position w/in Choueifat-definitely a director-like salary (which is sad, in itself). Are the PPP positions really intolerable? Just asking, as the regular k-12 positions w/ Choueifat are pretty crappy, too. Granted, teaching KG1-Grade 5 is ok at Choueifat in terms of the students. |
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WhatsGrammar?
Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 54
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:27 am Post subject: |
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It might be a higher posdition as such but I view it differently.
I was initially offered a position as a teacher. Working 30 (contact) hours for 8500 dirhams. I turned them down flat.
I was then offered (after another telephone conversation) this new position.
Its not a salary increase as such. 30 hours a week for 8500 or 45 hours a week for 12000. It pretty much amounts to the same hourly rate.
I have turned them down but stated I will take the position for a salary of 16,000 durhams.  |
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mishmumkin
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| I have turned them down but stated I will take the position for a salary of 16,000 durhams. |
Good for you! |
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Sunburnt Individual
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it is that bad. The actually pay their Choueifat employees LESS than a PPP person. The start at 6,500/mo for the regular schools, and a whopping 7,000 for the PPP. That's if you're western. There are some Arab nationals that worked for 5,500-6,500 a month. The one AQC's (probably what they're offering you now) salary that I know is 9,000/mo. So to them 8,500 for a teacher must seem like such a large amount of money the only thing you could do with it is stick in your ears and go PPPHHHHHBBBTTTTT!
The do NOT provide housing for families. The don't give housing allowances, and you can only live with your spouse if both work for SABIS. One man was here without his wife and child and was told that he could bring them next year. When next year rolled around, they told him that no such promise was ever made.
The sabisstinks site has a pretty good outline of what's going on. I'm not associated with them, but we're all trying to get the word out about this place. Trying to take this energy and do something positive with it, you know?
No matter what they pay you, it is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. This was by and large the worst professional experience of my life. |
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Sunburnt Individual
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: |
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How bad the PPP position is varies by where you are. The people in the western region as a whole had a horrible, horrible time, and were fooled into going there in the first place. The people in Al Ain weren't happy, but outside of school it wasn't so bad.
It seems like girls' schools are the best place to be and in particular the girls' elementary. The PPP1 (first year of the program) schools seemed to have faired much better this year than the PPP2 schools. These were the elementary schools. The middle schools had all the problems of middle school students, compounded with a very hostile school system. They do not want SABIS there. The PPP1 schools got that out of their system last year.
The boys schools have a lot of violence as a whole, regardless of location. Kids stab each other with pens, sometimes knives are brought to school, daily fistfights... there's even been a cover-up of a rape of an Iraqi refugee boy by his Emirati classmates in the western region.
I think the most telling statistic is that of all the teacher in the program this year, only 2 stayed for next year. |
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