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Submitting an Article for Publishing: Scam?
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Kootvela



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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Location: Lithuania

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They wrote that some work was done and made slight indications that it is to be rewarded by the fee, which I agree is fair, but only when the author is informed about the accepted work. Now I don't understand from their emails if it was A) formatting and editing the article BEFORE approving for publishing, thus a question: why bother with editing and formatting something you may jilt? B) formatting and editing and article for August issue hoping that the fact about the date will just make me pay the damn fee just to get the article published.

Anyway, I'm glad I refused their service.

Another publisher replied that they didn't get my article sent in May. When will people learn to check their spam folders?
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Song&Dance



Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a Chinese scholar wants to get published in an academic journal in China they must pay for it.

Western academic journals never charge.

What kind of article are you trying to get published?
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called it 'Failing to Acquire a Desired Level of Fluency in A Foreign Language'. I examine my experience and try to account for what hinders the acquisition process.
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Kootvela,
It sounds like an interesting topic - hope you get it published, and, if so, please let us know where.
But surely you can't be referring to your acquisition of English when to state that you examine your experience.
If you've failed to acquire a desired level of fluency, all I can say is, judging from your posts, you've certainly set the bar extremely high - so high, in fact, I'd say many of us would have to feel likewise.
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it as a compliment. The article is a series of conclusions made by me from observing my adult students for the past 4 years. Some do make progress but some don't.
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kootvela wrote:
I take it as a compliment. The article is a series of conclusions made by me from observing my adult students for the past 4 years. Some do make progress but some don't.


I'd really enjoy reading your article - I'd like to compare your observations and conclusions about adult learners with what I've experienced with them here in Mexico.
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39 wrote:
Kootvela wrote:
I take it as a compliment. The article is a series of conclusions made by me from observing my adult students for the past 4 years. Some do make progress but some don't.


I'd really enjoy reading your article - I'd like to compare your observations and conclusions about adult learners with what I've experienced with them here in Mexico.


Maybe we can pull a co-article?
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MO39



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kootvela wrote:
MO39 wrote:
Kootvela wrote:
I take it as a compliment. The article is a series of conclusions made by me from observing my adult students for the past 4 years. Some do make progress but some don't.


I'd really enjoy reading your article - I'd like to compare your observations and conclusions about adult learners with what I've experienced with them here in Mexico.


Maybe we can pull a co-article?


I haven't written down any of my observations on this topic, but maybe I should. I've also worked in Spain and taught groups in the US with students from all over the world, so I do have a wide base of classroom experience to draw on. Hmmm, I'll have to think about it....
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Luder



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Song&Dance says:

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Western academic journals never charge.


Not really true. Many Western academic journals--here in the US, at any rate--require that the authors of submissions be subscribers to the journal or members of the association that publishes it. And these subscriptions and memberships don't come cheap.

And many publishers of academic books--though not the most prestigious ones--are so-called subsidy publishers. I think this is as it should be. Why should taxpayers have to fund an unreadable monograph published by the press of a public university just so that some irrelevant egghead can earn tenure and promotion? As it stands, university presses are being run as benevolent societies for the benefit of professors on the tenure track. This is a minor scandal. Long live the vanity presses!
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slaqdog



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oi luder! leave those eggheads alone! We'll have less of this baldy bashing....
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that was an insult, so a very lame one.
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fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More like an allusion to/a play on a central phrase in Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall (but with an extra syllable): "Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!"
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Them lyrics Reply with quote

Dear fluffyhamster,

Actually, it's "Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!"
I wouldn't bother except I think it's an important part of the irony of the lyrics, along with "We don't need no education."

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

"Wrong, Do it again!"
"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you
have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
"You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!"

Regards,
John
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn my cloth ears, aging memory...and you, John! Damn you too!

Laughing
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like dancing.

*grabs fluffyhamster and cuddles*
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