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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| corporatehuman wrote: |
| Can someone tell me what the gringo dance is? I want to know if I'm doing it or not. |
Otherwise known as throwing a hissy fit. |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| TheLongWayHome wrote: |
Don't wait to be served ANYWHERE and don't queue, it's futility.
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Umm, not exactly. It's more subtle than that. In some places you do queue. In places where you don't, you get served when you speak up, not in order of arrival. The best thing is to watch others, identify what they are doing, and try to behave in the same way.
In non-queue situations (like at a counter), we may think the locals are rude for getting served right away when we were already waiting there. What we didn't realize is that we were rude for just standing there in silence and not engaging the server with a Buenos d�as/tardes even if they were in conversation with the current customer when we arrived. |
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El Gallo

Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 318
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Like those generalizations, eh? Or is it generalisations?
It's not just gringos who do the dance. Ask INM. Brits and Canadians can be pretty upset at the process as well. I went to INM with a Brit one day who had a complete fit because there was nowhere to buy coffee while she was waiting. (I was so embarrassed I felt compelled to explain to my fellow waiting applicants she was British and not American) |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| notamiss wrote: |
| TheLongWayHome wrote: |
Don't wait to be served ANYWHERE and don't queue, it's futility.
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Umm, not exactly. It's more subtle than that. In some places you do queue. |
For example, in banks. Some even provide seats for you while you wait, in an orderly line, of course! |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| El Gallo wrote: |
| It's not just gringos who do the dance. ... Brits and Canadians can be pretty upset at the process as well. |
Not to side-track here, but I never heard Mexicans distinguish between 'gringo' and 'foreigner'. When I heard and used the word gringo in Mexico it meant any obviously foreign person, and had nothing to do with any particular nationality. |
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Milenka

Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 113 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| ls650 wrote: |
| Not to side-track here, but I never heard Mexicans distinguish between 'gringo' and 'foreigner'. When I heard and used the word gringo in Mexico it meant any obviously foreign person, and had nothing to do with any particular nationality. |
I find your posting very odd. My experience is the opposite: a gringo is a person from the US, all other foreigners we call extranjeros.
Enough side-tracking. |
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Jetgirly

Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 741
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Take it from a Mexican woman who has never seen a cockroach in any of the homes she's lived in in Mexico...
Milenka |
In Mexico, my Canadian roommate liked to save Cornflakes that reminded her of people back home, by leaving them on the kitchen counter. Needless to say, our kitchen wasn't always the cleanest place. In five months, we only saw two cockroaches (one in a closet, one in the bathroom). Our building, however, had an infestation and there were dozens of roaches dying all over the main stairwell... luckily, none of that particular variety ever made it inside our apartment (that we saw). |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Cockroach tip: Step on one, do it! Get it over with. Avoid the hooha of trying to find the raid at 7am. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| TheLongWayHome wrote: |
| Cockroach tip: Step on one, do it! Get it over with. Avoid the hooha of trying to find the raid at 7am. |
Or get your landlord to fumigate the building as if they are actually living in the building, they will never go away. I've only lived in one place that had a cockroach problem, years ago. Never had a problem thereafter, save for the big fat ones that would fly into the window in Acapulco. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Or get your landlord to fumigate the building as if they are actually living in the building, they will never go away. |
Unfortunately, the small building I live in is a co-op, and the tenants (and several absentee landlords) can't be persuaded to pay to have the building fumigated. I wonder if it would do any good to have just my apartment fumigated  |
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guatetaliana

Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 112 Location: Monterrey, Nuevo Le�n, Mexico
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen plenty more cockroaches in the US than in Mexico. Way more.
I would also say, don't spend your time being overly cautious about everything. If you're that uptight, it's gonna show and a) you won't enjoy the experience as much, and b) people are going to THINK you're uptight and you won't look cool. Don't start mainlining the tap water, but don't obsess over using bottled water to brush your teeth, either. Like Guy said, come with an open mind, and be observant. That will be the fastest way to make the transition to a new culture. |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| El Gallo wrote: |
Like those generalizations, eh? Or is it generalisations?
It's not just gringos who do the dance. Ask INM. Brits and Canadians can be pretty upset at the process as well. I went to INM with a Brit one day who had a complete fit because there was nowhere to buy coffee while she was waiting. (I was so embarrassed I felt compelled to explain to my fellow waiting applicants she was British and not American) |
Good story. No, the gringo dance is definitely not just for gringos, it refers to all nationalities when things get a little frustrating down at migracion - we just can't think of a better name for it.
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Seconding what MO said about getting sick.
Minor medical matters are extremely affordable.
Throat infection: $150 for doctor's visit, $80 for medication. Total less than 300 pesos.
Removal of some moles and cysts by a top dematologist cost me only $1800/spot. |
Maybe doctors are expensive in SLP but every time my kid gets sick it's $1000 pesos minimum. The one and only time I've seen a doctor here it cost me about $800 all in but I had to go to a hospital as it was kind of an emergency. I have IMSS but had I gone there I probably would have died waiting. |
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Milenka

Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 113 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, Milenka, I like your icon! |
Thanks, MO! It's a painting of La Malinche by Rosario Marquardt. I find La Malinche very interesting, not only because of her role as an interpreter (faraute or lengua, as they (we) are called in old Spanish documents), but also because she's one of the most painfully misunderstood characters in Mexican history: http://www.tihof.org/honors/malinche-esp.htm (espa�ol)
http://www.tihof.org/honors/malinche.htm (English) |
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kidefl
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 40
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: |
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The best tip from me is to learn Spanish as quick as possible. If you can't roll the R you'll sound, er, um ... gay, wrong country for that. In such case have fun with it, maybe by holding your finger under your tongue as you try to say it, Mexicans will laugh along with you.
If you're a cheapskate never let it be known. Drop a coin often, especially in company of your Mexican friends, and do it as if you've been doing it all your life.
Foreign men should be cautious about eye-balling the women a little too much. Sure the boyz there do it but they have a better idea who she might be related to.
Avoid other Gringos as much as possible. It will retard your growth in learning how to speak and act (unless your plans are only temporary).
You may find lots of sources that tell you to never use native slang in your host nation. It makes you appear you want to be part of a group you could never, ever be in reality. Once you got the R down and have fluidity, let it fly!
I got the Choros my first visit, one of the sickest three days of my life. Remember, as has already been stated, don't plug it up - get it out, lots of fruit. I was unconscious for two of those days and an American tourist I met come to my house and hand-fed me. But you know what? I never got it again.
In my opinion, as written as rule #1, your ability in Spanish is directly related to the benefit and enjoyment of your stay. My social life after three years was more chido than ever in my life, in any country, and it only got better. |
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thelmadatter
Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 1212 Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: I dunno |
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| ls650 wrote: |
| corporatehuman wrote: |
| Can someone tell me what the gringo dance is? I want to know if I'm doing it or not. |
Otherwise known as throwing a hissy fit. |
Im not so sure about this one. I have found that by being nice I get steamrolled here. More and more people (Mexicans and foreigners) are telling me that I NEED to throw hissy fits, not at first perhaps, but if being nice doesnt get you anywhere, there is nothing wrong with getting mad. |
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