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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

corporatehuman wrote:
Can someone tell me what the gringo dance is? I want to know if I'm doing it or not.

Otherwise known as throwing a hissy fit.
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notamiss



Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:

Don't wait to be served ANYWHERE and don't queue, it's futility.


Umm, not exactly. It's more subtle than that. In some places you do queue. In places where you don't, you get served when you speak up, not in order of arrival. The best thing is to watch others, identify what they are doing, and try to behave in the same way.

In non-queue situations (like at a counter), we may think the locals are rude for getting served right away when we were already waiting there. What we didn't realize is that we were rude for just standing there in silence and not engaging the server with a Buenos d�as/tardes even if they were in conversation with the current customer when we arrived.
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El Gallo



Joined: 05 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like those generalizations, eh? Or is it generalisations?

It's not just gringos who do the dance. Ask INM. Brits and Canadians can be pretty upset at the process as well. I went to INM with a Brit one day who had a complete fit because there was nowhere to buy coffee while she was waiting. (I was so embarrassed I felt compelled to explain to my fellow waiting applicants she was British and not American)
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notamiss wrote:
TheLongWayHome wrote:

Don't wait to be served ANYWHERE and don't queue, it's futility.


Umm, not exactly. It's more subtle than that. In some places you do queue.


For example, in banks. Some even provide seats for you while you wait, in an orderly line, of course!
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El Gallo wrote:
It's not just gringos who do the dance. ... Brits and Canadians can be pretty upset at the process as well.

Not to side-track here, but I never heard Mexicans distinguish between 'gringo' and 'foreigner'. When I heard and used the word gringo in Mexico it meant any obviously foreign person, and had nothing to do with any particular nationality.
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Milenka



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ls650 wrote:
Not to side-track here, but I never heard Mexicans distinguish between 'gringo' and 'foreigner'. When I heard and used the word gringo in Mexico it meant any obviously foreign person, and had nothing to do with any particular nationality.


I find your posting very odd. My experience is the opposite: a gringo is a person from the US, all other foreigners we call extranjeros.

Enough side-tracking.
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Jetgirly



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Milenka"]
TheLongWayHome wrote:

Take it from a Mexican woman who has never seen a cockroach in any of the homes she's lived in in Mexico...
Milenka


In Mexico, my Canadian roommate liked to save Cornflakes that reminded her of people back home, by leaving them on the kitchen counter. Needless to say, our kitchen wasn't always the cleanest place. In five months, we only saw two cockroaches (one in a closet, one in the bathroom). Our building, however, had an infestation and there were dozens of roaches dying all over the main stairwell... luckily, none of that particular variety ever made it inside our apartment (that we saw).
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: San Luis Piojosi

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cockroach tip: Step on one, do it! Get it over with. Avoid the hooha of trying to find the raid at 7am.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:
Cockroach tip: Step on one, do it! Get it over with. Avoid the hooha of trying to find the raid at 7am.


Or get your landlord to fumigate the building as if they are actually living in the building, they will never go away. I've only lived in one place that had a cockroach problem, years ago. Never had a problem thereafter, save for the big fat ones that would fly into the window in Acapulco.
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:


Or get your landlord to fumigate the building as if they are actually living in the building, they will never go away.


Unfortunately, the small building I live in is a co-op, and the tenants (and several absentee landlords) can't be persuaded to pay to have the building fumigated. I wonder if it would do any good to have just my apartment fumigated Question
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guatetaliana



Joined: 20 Feb 2008
Posts: 112
Location: Monterrey, Nuevo Le�n, Mexico

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen plenty more cockroaches in the US than in Mexico. Way more.

I would also say, don't spend your time being overly cautious about everything. If you're that uptight, it's gonna show and a) you won't enjoy the experience as much, and b) people are going to THINK you're uptight and you won't look cool. Don't start mainlining the tap water, but don't obsess over using bottled water to brush your teeth, either. Like Guy said, come with an open mind, and be observant. That will be the fastest way to make the transition to a new culture.
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: San Luis Piojosi

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El Gallo wrote:
Like those generalizations, eh? Or is it generalisations?

It's not just gringos who do the dance. Ask INM. Brits and Canadians can be pretty upset at the process as well. I went to INM with a Brit one day who had a complete fit because there was nowhere to buy coffee while she was waiting. (I was so embarrassed I felt compelled to explain to my fellow waiting applicants she was British and not American)

Laughing Good story. No, the gringo dance is definitely not just for gringos, it refers to all nationalities when things get a little frustrating down at migracion - we just can't think of a better name for it.

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Seconding what MO said about getting sick.
Minor medical matters are extremely affordable.
Throat infection: $150 for doctor's visit, $80 for medication. Total less than 300 pesos.
Removal of some moles and cysts by a top dematologist cost me only $1800/spot.

Maybe doctors are expensive in SLP but every time my kid gets sick it's $1000 pesos minimum. The one and only time I've seen a doctor here it cost me about $800 all in but I had to go to a hospital as it was kind of an emergency. I have IMSS but had I gone there I probably would have died waiting.
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Milenka



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39 wrote:


By the way, Milenka, I like your icon!


Thanks, MO! It's a painting of La Malinche by Rosario Marquardt. I find La Malinche very interesting, not only because of her role as an interpreter (faraute or lengua, as they (we) are called in old Spanish documents), but also because she's one of the most painfully misunderstood characters in Mexican history: http://www.tihof.org/honors/malinche-esp.htm (espa�ol)
http://www.tihof.org/honors/malinche.htm (English)
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kidefl



Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Posts: 40

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best tip from me is to learn Spanish as quick as possible. If you can't roll the R you'll sound, er, um ... gay, wrong country for that. In such case have fun with it, maybe by holding your finger under your tongue as you try to say it, Mexicans will laugh along with you.

If you're a cheapskate never let it be known. Drop a coin often, especially in company of your Mexican friends, and do it as if you've been doing it all your life.

Foreign men should be cautious about eye-balling the women a little too much. Sure the boyz there do it but they have a better idea who she might be related to.

Avoid other Gringos as much as possible. It will retard your growth in learning how to speak and act (unless your plans are only temporary).

You may find lots of sources that tell you to never use native slang in your host nation. It makes you appear you want to be part of a group you could never, ever be in reality. Once you got the R down and have fluidity, let it fly!

I got the Choros my first visit, one of the sickest three days of my life. Remember, as has already been stated, don't plug it up - get it out, lots of fruit. I was unconscious for two of those days and an American tourist I met come to my house and hand-fed me. But you know what? I never got it again.

In my opinion, as written as rule #1, your ability in Spanish is directly related to the benefit and enjoyment of your stay. My social life after three years was more chido than ever in my life, in any country, and it only got better.
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thelmadatter



Joined: 31 Mar 2003
Posts: 1212
Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: I dunno Reply with quote

ls650 wrote:
corporatehuman wrote:
Can someone tell me what the gringo dance is? I want to know if I'm doing it or not.

Otherwise known as throwing a hissy fit.


Im not so sure about this one. I have found that by being nice I get steamrolled here. More and more people (Mexicans and foreigners) are telling me that I NEED to throw hissy fits, not at first perhaps, but if being nice doesnt get you anywhere, there is nothing wrong with getting mad.
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