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Song&Dance



Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there an obligation to speak the truth just because you think you know the truth?

Is there an obligation to point out other's perceived deficiencies just because you perceive them?

Is there an obligation to defend yourself from critics?

Is there an obligation to counter-attack when attacked?

Is there an obligation to try to justify yourself at any cost?

Is there an obligation to have a dog in the fight and to take sides?


I think there is a much higher obligation to the community that constitutes this board, virtual as it may be.
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A'Moo



Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lobster wrote:
Style and writing mechanics are certainly important, but content and tone cannot be overlooked when evaluating someone's written work.

RED

Agreed.
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Song&Dance



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A'Moo wrote:
Lobster wrote:
Style and writing mechanics are certainly important, but content and tone cannot be overlooked when evaluating some one's written work.

RED

Agreed.


AND SO, NOW ANOTHER THREAD IS HYJACKED INTO THE REALM OF COMPLETE IRRELEVENCE.
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Anda



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

Having an overbearing picky teacher who is a nutcase on grammar is not what most students or employers want. This is especially true where student's marks drop from being switched off in class.

I don't profess to be a grammar expert and have no interest in the subject. I am employed to teach conversation / speaking skills which I'm good at.

If one listens to conversations between Westerners the grammar is in general terrible.

I was told once by an experienced journalist that the best way to write for the general public was in a simple way like is spoken by your average worker. He said that speaking in some high flouting way didn't get papers sold.

When one is writing for Uni exams in general one will rewrite a number of times to get the flow to sound right. I doubt many university teachers are worried much about grammar per see provided they can understand clearly what has been written.

Now what have I been employed for this time? I�ve been employed to teach kids from rich families that have fallen behind on their marks to get where their parents want them to be. Who did I teach in my last job? I taught kids that didn�t make the grade at middle school that were allowed to train to become elementary school teachers. After I started teaching their marks went up by 20% for entrance into a teacher�s university in Nanjing.

So A�moo send your make believe kids to your grammar expert and see what results you get. That is what is happening all over Asia with local teachers who study grammar year in and year out but can�t get their students to speak English.
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Song&Dance



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you two take it outside?
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A'Moo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Song&Dance wrote:
A'Moo wrote:
Lobster wrote:
Style and writing mechanics are certainly important, but content and tone cannot be overlooked when evaluating some one's written work.

RED

Agreed.


AND SO, NOW ANOTHER THREAD IS HYJACKED INTO THE REALM OF COMPLETE IRRELEVENCE.

Hijacked
Irrelevance
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jwbhomer



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question of whether grammar and spelling matter has been debated in countless threads. Could we hear more comments and experiences about the application, fair or otherwise, of the rules about age and length of employment?
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Song&Dance



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A'Moo henceforth I shall endeavor to ignore all of your posts until such time as you demonstrate a level of civility that warrants your inclusion in this community.
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