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saudi vs abu dhabi?!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree 100 percent with Mark. There are probably more Emiratis on the Edgware Road than in the UAE.

To me KSA is a vibrant and exciting place. But then I am not a
twenty-something year old of the female gender.

I get my jollies by having a coffee in the Rashid Mall on a Thursday morning.
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seriousgirl



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all, for your replies.!

My server went down a few days ago, and am in cafes(which I hate) writing hectic messages again, so...apologies

I was offered the post with English Canada, and was surprised also by the villa sharing. They would like to know by tomorrow what I have decided, and to come lickety split next week to join in various excursions with fabulous new team members, etc. The rep/organiser sounded super nice...sounds like a relaxed program, but 'unfounded' at the moment...things depend on ADEC. I do not know how much depends on ADEC.

The villas include private baths, cleaners, internet, tv, all furnishings...

Is English Canada a reputable company that would be worth pursuing a career with later?

I found Riyadh okay before, the uni a professsional nightmare. I have heard the East Coast is very diffferent, and generally good/okay things about PMU.

Small town Middle East, as experienced in Oman, definitely not for me ... the colleges appear to be generally very sad...

I do want to have a fairly large choice of company...meaning, enough of us around for a meaningful and healthy social life.

(Ideally folks, would like to be in a place where I can do things on the side that I have not done in years, like a bit of theatre, radio in english, voiceovers ....things which make me happy. Any chance of this in AD? Khobar/Bahrain? )

And, I am in my late thirties now...and although I do not care about the club/bar scene, I am not dead yet.

So, I would be pleased to receive your continued feedback.

Thanks,

serious

I look forward to any
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seriousgirl



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, yes. I am not Muslim.

I do enjoy reading and watching films and all, but do need some more going on than that, I have discovered this last year. (I lived in European cities for several years before, where one can feel terribly isolated and still go out to an art exhibition or funky cafe. Now how I wish the great passions of my life were knitting and embroidery!)

The Saudi employer would have exercise facilities, also an important point...but whether or not they are for women, I do not know yet. Good question.

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trapezius



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To me KSA is a vibrant and exciting place.


Really? The only things that make it "vibrant" and "exciting" are malls, shopping, cafes, and restaurants. Using those criteria, the UAE is ten times more vibrant and exciting. And they have a heck of a lot more special interest groups (dancing, book readings, theatre, games, sports, whatever) in the UAE than in KSA.

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I have heard the East Coast is very diffferent, and generally good/okay things about PMU.


Search these forums using the key words "PMU" and "prince". Read through all the threads about PMU, if you haven't done so already.

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where I can do things on the side that I have not done in years, like a bit of theatre, radio in english, voiceovers ....things which make me happy.


I have no specific information, but my guess would be that AD definitely would have more avenues than Khobar. Especially in theatre and radio.
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brasscat



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Of Abu Dubai and PMU Reply with quote

I have met several people, who are now at PMU, but did work in Abu Dubai. All have positive comments about life in Abu. However, the cost of living is higher.

PMU is located outside Al-Khobar, Eastern Province, KSA. The close proximity to Bahrain makes weekend escapes fairly easy. Eastern Province has a mixed population of both Sunnis and Shias. However, there is a significant population of ex-pats, so life tends to be more relaxed than in a conservative Whabee area like Hail.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brasscat might like to know that these guys he dislikes are Wahabi. I can recommend one or two books if he would care to read. But then his attitude to reading about this area is presumably akin to his attitude to learning Arabic.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Nasty! Reply with quote

I do a considerable amount of reading, traveling, and even publishing books. My newest book is due out on 1 Sept. 2008, this will be #5.

As far as my atitude towards learning new languages, I haven't said anything in either direction. For the record, I do indeed speak other languages.

Ok, I can't spell. Since when does that make anyone stupid?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a teacher of English, writing in a public forum, you should do a spellcheck or use a dictionary.

And maybe read a few books about this area.
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brasscat



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Maybe Reply with quote

Yes, as an English Teacher in a formal situation, you are right.

However, currently, I am on vacation, so the usual formalities are not present.
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As a teacher of English, writing in a public forum, you should do a spellcheck or use a dictionary.


That's rich coming from you, scottie! Your posts are frequently littered with misspelled words. And I am talking about English words, not transliterated Arabic words.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few absolutes in life. One is that anyone who finds Saudi Arabia a "vibrant, exciting" place either needs his/her head examined or is purposely (perhaps in a paid capacity) engaged in the most blatant kind of Orwellian doublespeak.

Or the poster knows his/her bosses are watching. Double-plus ungood.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. I deliberately place typos in my posts to infuriate crusty old bores like me.

2. I admit that I am a paid agent of Riyadh. Who do you think pays my
salary ? The UN ?

3. You are welcome to come and examine my head anytime you like.

4. My feud with brasscat continues.


THE KSA is certainly more vibrant and more exciting than that collection of Emirates up the road. Or most of the places I have seen in the UKofGB&NI.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect that everyone has their own definition of vibrant and exciting. And it changes as we 'mature.' Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Why A Feud? Reply with quote

Last time I looked, none of my relatives were either Hatfields or McCoys.

For the sake of clarity, what started the feud?

When did it start?


Minor details for the next book I will be writing when I get back to the KSA. The tenative title is: Sand Cat's Surprise
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I expect that everyone has their own definition of vibrant and exciting. And it changes as we 'mature.'


Fair enough. However, I must say what I want to say. 'Exciting' is very subjective. Polishing silverware might be exciting for one person, but very boring for most people.

However, 'vibrant' is more or less objective. Here is what one of the online dictionaries says:

Quote:
pulsating with vigor and energy: the vibrant life of a large city.


As I said earlier, the only way in which Saudi is 'vibrant' is with respect to malls, restaurants, and cafes. However, in that respect, UAE is magnitudes of order more 'vibrant'. And UAE has other things which make it even more 'vibrant' which are more or less absent from SA, namely, cinemas, bars, clubs, exhibitions, international sports competitions, theater, and many many other things.

I am not necessarily saying that UAE is 'better' than SA or vice versa. That's for individuals to decide on their own. However, SA is definitely a lot less vibrant than UAE whether you are talking about family entertainment, sports, shopping, eating, nightlife, whatever.
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