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englishgibson · Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345

speaking of party members and their organization, it's apparently really tough to get in (i haven't applied)...there might be some unusual requirements we'll never know. in any case, a lao wai might not be even allowed to fill in the application form.

on the topic, and with respect to foreigners in china, what kind of a message does such an educational system as the one in china sends to its youth and what can those high school grads think about fts when they get to understand the "foreign roles" in classrooms?

i've got one year program with the high school grads that apply for western unis. after three or four months many students realize that their one year with me is so much in their compatriots hands and i am there just to fill in the post. these 18 year old kids know quickly that they're smarter than either the office worker or the one who manages the office worker. then, and after just half of the uni prep program they look at me like "we're just waitin' for the boarding pass".

now, if those students that i've mentioned above come back to china or if any students having been taught by fts in china get into the workforce and fill in all kinda position in this lovely country, what respect will they have for the foreign workers in china?further more, what respect will they have for any foreigners from around the world Confused

cheers and beers to the free market with equal opportunities in one world with one dream that teaches chinese the exact opposite Laughing

A'Moo · Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:45 am Post subject:

englishgibson · Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345

Here's a better point. Chinese private language training centers usually use western material and staff to make their profits. Chinese employers often opt for the "western approach" and they even put some fine western brand names over their heads/doors. Then, some choose to sign their franchise agreements with some western companies to make it in the biz or to get out of troubles they've got into with their previous centers, when they opened under their own shite educational and managerial ideology. Why do they really try so hard to take any authority away from us, or manage us in such a Chinese "traditional" way, when they only make it thanks to us???

I guess the answer might be in this whole "successful Chinese model" that has recently had its foundations laid for a "superpower". They've taken/copied western values and've seemingly recreated their own ones. It's like I'll take your own script for a book, and after I''ll copy, paste and exclude what's "unsuitable to me" there, I'll boast with it as "MY NEW BOOK". What a f*cked example of a system for other countries in future. Mad

No cheers or beers to the Chinese educational system that could have never gotten anywhere pass Mao Tse Tung without us the fts

arioch36 · Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589

I was told that my classes should be in a western fashion,as all the students are going overseas. And for GAC it's true, most of them do go to American colleges. And of course my classes should all be in English. But the Chinese teachers all use Chinese when teaching English.

I taught two classes math. Lowest score was 64 (passing is 55), Each class 24 students. Average score at least an 80. But for all my classes I do am much group work as possible. This includes math, where I want tehm to do the homework together, solve problems together, etc. I found this to be very effective, and certainly how it works in any engineering school. The DOS who is Chinese, has never been a teacher. The owner, who was admin at anothr school, has never taught. The stuents are happy, did great in the course. But I was rebuked for my teaching style

This is China I was told, and students need to study individually.
I was also rebuked for taking breaks in the midlle of 90 minute classes, etc

englishgibson · Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345

yes, this is china

the owner of the center where i work also has never taught and actually doesn't speak a word of english...how could he have possibly got the license Confused

well, i have a manager who speaks some elementary english and one of her responsibilities is to hold the owner's ****lllllssss Laughing

we've got a newly appointed foreign DoS (on probation) after a failed attempt by chinese staff to install a local air head to the position...hope he'll last, but i do not want to sign my fifth contract with this place at all..lies come out of their arses on daily basis

cheers and beers to the "foreign" GAC programs and their ch-academic goals

mgafunnell · Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 89

i agree with you on the point that they are not students but clients. however, i disagree with you when you say that the teachers at language mills are those who have a quicky diploma. i work at one of the mills, but i am actually a real teacher from my native country. i care about what i do and i really see improvments with them.

sure appearances here mean a lot and if the parents see directly what they are paying for then we're all in business.

yes, the certificate they receive means nothing but if they actually learn within the mills, they will be better off in their public school. i think that's what the 'customers' are truly looking for.

englishgibson · Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345

i've read your post above three times and'm trying to understand what you disagree with me about Confused

let's see your point of disagreement on teachers at language mills who