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wildchild



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had thought that...


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I had read that Indonesia for example, exclude[s] even...


Normally, I don't give a shet about such things, but thought this funny given the context of the thread and the direction in which the OP seems to be going.

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william wallace



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point?...um, the other point being ? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See I really hate when someone derails a topic that I think is quite pertinent to my lengthy experience(I assume others as well),and when it really has no relevance,other than being ? I have to wonder what this person is like interacting with those learners.

We've all had those teachers that have turned us off from learning a particular subject,and I have suspected those kinds of posters here on Dave's in the past, when they go off topic to criticize. like the last one posting.I personally have always taken issue with that kind of mindset!

The tense used was to give evidence to the possibility of having been wrong in my initial hypothesis - Simple! Nothing complex about it. However, it has nothing do do with L1 or L2 users of English; a previous posting of mine had accommodated the possibility for this kind of attack..."systematic vs non-systematic errors".
Here in China I have worked with L2 FTs who had been Band 5-7(IELTS), and I believe that they are not suitable for teaching English.
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NeilBarker



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madame J wrote:
As long as one is fluent in English, surely it does not matter if they are a native speaker?


Surely it does matter to the owners of many, many language schools in many, many countries, and to many, many of their students.

Should it matter? Of course not.
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