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jason_seeburn
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Location: Toronto
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 Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: the visa thing |
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| alamuerte wrote: |
i said i wouldn't get involved in the "debate" but here i am.
i'm here now, taipei. jason (chris) get a fu#ckin' life, it's over for you.
life has passed you by. toranta' was never my cup of tea but try to make something of it. |
Hah, not by a long shot. What is easier than finding an English Teaching job in Asia? Maybe finding a wall to *iss on when you're drunk? Thought I'd do something better with my life. If it doesn't work out, I'll be back. (free money and easy women are a strong pull with me).
ahh, and no, I won't be buying a return ticket  |
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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Location: Taoyuan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Glad to hear you're going to do something "better" with your life. Please take the final step in your moving on to better things, J-S: find something better to do with your time than posting here every day. |
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jason_seeburn
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| TaoyuanSteve wrote: |
| Glad to hear you're going to do something "better" with your life. Please take the final step in your moving on to better things, J-S: find something better to do with your time than posting here every day. |
No that's alright, Stevie. I'll pass on that. If nothing else, you all amuse me with your ignorance. It would definately unbrighten my day to not be able to laugh at your postings at least once (per hour?). |
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brian
Joined: 15 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have also suggested that Jason should find other, more pertinent things to do than post here. After all, Taiwan doesn't seem to have much relevance to his life now that he is not living here, and experiences and information get outdated awfully quick in a place like Taiwan. I said this out of a genuine misunderstanding for why he was on this board and not somewhere else where his current experiences may be more relevant. As usual he totally misunderstood, took my comments as an insult (I guess that this has become second nature for him now) and then unleashed a tirade against me.
Having thought about it now, I vote that we encourage Jason to stay. Have a look back through the recent posts. Without Jasons input these posts would have been factually correct, but not nearly as entertaining. I know that I for one log on once a day if I can just to see 'What Jason has come up with now..' I think it is good for newbies to see both sides of the story when it comes to information on Taiwan, and to see that boards such of these can be a source of good information as much as a source of mis-information, as well as a good laugh.
I think that everyone knows who the laughing stock on this board is! |
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jason_seeburn
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| brian wrote: |
I have also suggested that Jason should find other, more pertinent things to do than post here. After all, Taiwan doesn't seem to have much relevance to his life now that he is not living here, and experiences and information get outdated awfully quick in a place like Taiwan. I said this out of a genuine misunderstanding for why he was on this board and not somewhere else where his current experiences may be more relevant. As usual he totally misunderstood, took my comments as an insult (I guess that this has become second nature for him now) and then unleashed a tirade against me.
Having thought about it now, I vote that we encourage Jason to stay. Have a look back through the recent posts. Without Jasons input these posts would have been factually correct, but not nearly as entertaining. I know that I for one log on once a day if I can just to see 'What Jason has come up with now..' I think it is good for newbies to see both sides of the story when it comes to information on Taiwan, and to see that boards such of these can be a source of good information as much as a source of mis-information, as well as a good laugh.
I think that everyone knows who the laughing stock on this board is! |
True. It's funny when people laugh at you, but you don't know they're doing it (right, Brian?). |
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brian
Joined: 15 May 2003
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True. It's funny when people laugh at you, but you don't know they're doing it (right, Brian?). |
Jason just curious but why would you think it is that people would be laughing at me exactly. To be laughing at me, I would have had to have posted something that was either humorous or something that had been proven to have been incorrect. I don�t believe that I have done either. Sure, I have come around to accept others points of views on a couple of occasions, but this is surely maturity not something to be ridiculed.
Surely if people are laughing at anyone on this board for the quality of the posts that they make then it must be you. Here is just a snippet of what I am talking about:
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| You'll find if you argue with the people at the Eco office that you can get a visa with a one way. One you have the visa, you are fine. I recently had an argument (which I won) with an unnamed poster on this forum on this very topic, so don't be surprised if this individual disagrees with me. Whisper goes, you don't need a return ticket. Trust me. |
| alamuerte wrote: |
not joining the "debate" just giving my experience.
- departed toronto nov. 16 with a return seat booked for oct 20 2004
- was told at check-in that since my visa was for 30 days my
return seat had to booked for within that window.
- changed the reservation for dec. 13, the latest they had availability
for the 30 days. ( cost to make change $25 can.)
- haven't done it yet but will now have to change the reservation again,
probably for the hong kong visa run, but that's another story.
(been told that because i have a 30 day landing visa instead of a
30 day visistor visa i can't do the star cruise trip). |
 Oops, Jason! That's just plain embarrassing.
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| It's even more clear who is unaware that there are no procedures on Taiwan for this, just visa issuing procedures in Canada and the USA. |
| brian wrote: |
http://www.immigration.gov.tw/e_immig/eng/4.htm
Article 17
Aliens may be banned from entering the State if they:
Have used a visitor visa but do not have an air or steamer ticket for a return trip or a trip to the next destination or have not secured an entry visa for the next destination; or |
Oops again!
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| I've never seen this authority of airlines to screen their passengers for return tickets, or seen any willingness on their part to do so. |
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| They can't stop you at the check in counter in Canada. |
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| If you buy a ticket, the airline will carry you. Do you think that airlines would sell tickets to people, and then refuse to let them on airplanes? |
| brian wrote: |
Article 41
http://www.klm.com/nl_en/index.jsp
ARTICLE 8. REFUSAL OF AND LIMITATION ON CARRIAGE
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Carrier may refuse carriage or further carriage for reasons of safety or order or if, in the exercise of its reasonable discretion, Carrier determines that such action is necessary:
(a) in order to comply with any applicable laws, regulations or orders of any state or country to be flown from, into or over;
(h) because the passenger does not appear to be properly documented;
(i) because the passenger may seek to enter a country through which he may be in transit, or for which he does not have a valid entry document;
II. the person presenting the ticket cannot prove that he is the person named in the 'NAME OF PASSENGER' box, in which cases Carrier reserves the right to retain such ticket.
http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying/beforeYouTravel/conditionsCarriage
8. Qantas May Refuse to Board or Carry You
8.1 Denied Boarding
Even if you have a ticket and a confirmed reservation, Qantas may deny you boarding because we have no seats available. Qantas may also deny you boarding or refuse to carry you and may confiscate your ticket and/or boarding pass, without liability on its part:
� to comply with any applicable law, regulation or order
� because you cannot prove you are the person specified on the ticket on which you wish to travel
Qantas may also deny you boarding (but accepts no liability in the event that you do board and you suffer loss or damage as a result):
� because you do not appear to have all necessary documents (see 6.1)
12.1 Refusal of Entry
You may be refused permission to enter a country. If a government orders Qantas to return you to your place of origin or remove you to another country:
� you must pay for the return or other fare, and
� Qantas may set off any refund owing to you for unused flight coupons against the amount of that return or other fare (if unpaid).
12.2 Passenger Indemnity for Fines, Penalties and Expenses
If Qantas is ordered to pay any fine or penalty at any time, or incurs any expense, costs, loss or damage ("losses") because of your failure to comply with any law, regulation, order or with any of these written conditions or any term of the contract, or because of your behaviour or because of any health or medical condition, you must fully indemnify Qantas for all losses plus all legal costs and other expenses incurred. Qantas may set off any refund owing to you for unused flight coupons against any such amounts.
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Uh oh! Not again!
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| An airline couldn't care less if you've met the visa requirements of the country you are going to. Once they drop you off, you're there, visa or no. They don't assume responsibility for their passengers. |
| brian wrote: |
Article 41
The captain of an aircraft or vessel, or the transport service proprietor shall be responsible for arranging transport on the day in question or of the earliest run to deport passengers, sailors, or flight crew on board his aircraft, vessel, or other means of transport, if they:
Have been banned from entering the State pursuant to the subparagraphs of the first paragraphs of Articles 17 and 7; or
Article 48
Related expenditures that shall be borne by transport service proprietors,
as stated in paragraph 2 of article 41 of the Law, shall include commodations, living, medical expenses and the fees paid by the competent authorities for attendance. |
This is getting really embarrassing!
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| You've offered no proof of any requirements, you just talk like you know everything, but you give no evidence at all. |
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| If you want to say something, have evidence. Otherwise, you will probably get insulted by people who are perplexed by your lack of knowledge and insistence that you know everything. |
Here�s my proof and supporting evidence.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/posting.php?mode=quote&p=57544
Where�s yours? You have not backed up a single one of your claims with anything other than insults.
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| Insults ARE making my point. You are a terrible listener. My insults, as you call them, make sense if you read them in relation to what you are doing. |
Well that says it all. Good luck in the legal field. I am sure that your clients will learn to accept this unorthodox style.
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| Also remember that you will be talking to the other foreign teachers at the school (half of whom will probably be Australians). |
| Frankie Knuckles wrote: |
| Jason, I was just wondering why you said that 'half of the teachers would probably be Australians'. I thought that Australians were in the minority compared to Canadians and Americans teaching in Taiwan. |
| matchstick_man wrote: |
| I lived in the Taichung area for three 2000-mid this year and can count the number of Aussies (is Jason confusing aussies with kiwis and south africans?) I met on one hand |
Oh well. Now, who is the laughing stock? |
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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Location: Taoyuan
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess I have to agree with Brian. J-S contributes little to this forum, other than cheap entertainment value. We can only guess why he continues to post here, so long after he left (and after being here for such a short time). Now that he's back in Canada, you'd think he'd be busy doing other things. This forum has little relevence to his current life situation. His posts draw on his experiences from a supposed 9 month term of residence here that ended 3 months ago. Yes, his rants are amusing, but his insults aren't. Neither are the factually incorrect posts. J-S, glad to hear you find my ignorance amusing (I've never claimed to be an infallible expert, unlike you). I find yours is a little less so. |
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jason_seeburn
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jason_seeburn wrote: |
True. It's funny when people laugh at you, but you don't know they're doing it (right, Brian?). |
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Jason just curious but why would you think it is that people would be laughing at me exactly. To be laughing at me, I would have had to have posted something that was either humorous or something that had been proven to have been incorrect. I don�t believe that I have done either. Sure, I have come around to accept others points of views on a couple of occasions, but this is surely maturity not something to be ridiculed.
Surely if people are laughing at anyone on this board for the quality of the posts that they make then it must be you. Here is just a snippet of what I am talking about:
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Wow, Brian, why so defensive? All you did was (like most simpletons, which I assume you are) confuse rules with guidelines, and must do's with situational dos. This is what makes me a better person than you for giving advice and helping people to get what they want. You think you have to follow rules. I know there aren't any rules, and the ones that pretend to be rules can be gotten around. You live your safety first life and I learn how to beat the system. On a forum such as this, my advice is arguably much more useful than yours. Anyone who can read can tell someone what the rules are. But people like me can tell someone how to break them and get away with it. And that, Brian, is what Lawyers are for. |
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jason_seeburn
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess I have to agree with Brian. J-S contributes little to this forum, other than cheap entertainment value. |
but nonetheless, people are constantly PMing me for info, which I readily give.
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| We can only guess why he continues to post here, so long after he left (and after being here for such a short time). |
true, I wouldn't expect intelligence such as your to be able to pick up on something like that.
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| Now that he's back in Canada, you'd think he'd be busy doing other things. This forum has little relevence to his current life situation. |
Which you, of course, know everything about.
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| His posts draw on his experiences from a supposed 9 month term of residence here that ended 3 months ago. |
here we go again, old timers telling me how great they are by how long they've been on the island. Yawn....can't you think of something better?
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| Yes, his rants are amusing, but his insults aren't. |
No, insults are seldom amusing to the insulted. But without standards, where would we all be?
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| Neither are the factually incorrect posts. |
I have yet to post something that is factually incorrect. Just because you have grade 6 reading comprehension skills, doesn't mean that what I write is incorrect. Incomprehensible, to you, yes. But not wrong.
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| J-S, glad to hear you find my ignorance amusing |
It's not the only funny thing about you.
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| (I've never claimed to be an infallible expert, unlike you). |
Kindly tell me when I claimed to be an infallible expert?
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| I find yours is a little less so. |
Monkey steve scratch head. What this? Duh?
Get a life stevie. i've been on Taiwan. I know what you are worth. You are just another dominating old timer. I used to run away from people like you when they tried to talk to me in my city. They'd leave a trail of Chinese laughter anywhere they went. Do everyone a favour and go dominate some other forum, and leave people who want to post messages alone. You act like a dictator. |
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brian
Joined: 15 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| I know there aren't any rules, and the ones that pretend to be rules can be gotten around. You live your safety first life and I learn how to beat the system. |
Yeah your advice is great Jason. Just in the last week or so following your advice has cost someone $25 Canadian, and a degree of anxiety and inconvenience. Keep up the good work.
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| Anyone who can read can tell someone what the rules are. But people like me can tell someone how to break them and get away with it. And that, Brian, is what Lawyers are for. |
Ah, Jasons studying to become an ambulance chaser. One of those well respected attorneys that we all see advertising on late night TV telling everyone ' I'll get you top dollar for your claim. If don't get paid neither do I. I know all the tricks'. Nothing more than a used car salesman with a degree.
In my eyes, a proper lawyer actually advises clients what to do based upon the information at hand with a healthy dose of common sense thrown in. Their aim is to use their knowledge of the law and their experience with it to advise clients on the best way to avoid trouble. These are the lawyers that get the good jobs and the top pay as they are well respected. Clowns like Jason aspires to be have no place other than in those commercials on late night TV. Good luck to Jason. Your parents must be awfuly proud.
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| Do everyone a favour and go dominate some other forum, and leave people who want to post messages alone. You act like a dictator. |
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| You've offered no proof of any requirements, you just talk like you know everything, but you give no evidence at all. |
The funny thing about Jason is that in attempting to insult others, he in fact describes himself to a tee. He appears to be the only one that doesn't realize this. Thats the funny thing!
Here's a thought Jason. As you are such an expert on Taiwan and know all the in's and out's and all the tricks - why not actually make an informative post on this board - rather than attempt to dissect the posts of others. Don't be so afraid to start your own thread with something that is useful. We aren't all as picky as you are, and you never know such info may actually help someone. These feeble attempts to boost your own ego are just taking up space. |
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jason_seeburn
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| I know there aren't any rules, and the ones that pretend to be rules can be gotten around. You live your safety first life and I learn how to beat the system. |
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| Yeah your advice is great Jason. Just in the last week or so following your advice has cost someone $25 Canadian, and a degree of anxiety and inconvenience. Keep up the good work. |
what? The person who paid an extra $25 already HAD a return ticket, and had to pay to change his booking so that he would return within the 30 day window of his visa. How did my advice cost him money? I think your advice, that you could go on an open return ticket and set your return date any time you liked, cost him money. If he had bought a one way like I told him to, he probably wouldn't have been hassled like he was.
-Regarding your other drivel about my career plans: You are obviously from the USA and know nothing about Canadian law so I won't try to explain it to you other than to say that, because of anti-champery laws in Ontario, we don't have ambulance chasers (no contingency fees), and also our loser pays all court system tends to discourage frivolous lawsuits.
Have fun not making sense Brian (you're so good at it). |
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Dominate a forum, Jason? Take a glance at how many posts you've made as compared to me. I've been on this forum longer and made far fewer posts. I think you're the one who's trying to dominate. You never let an issue drop and you try to "win" discussions rather than try to learn anything (forget about admitting you don't know something).
You refer to me as an old timer. Firstly, I haven't been here very long (but a good deal longer than you WERE). Secondly, time spent here absolutely makes a difference in your knowledge base with regards to Taiwan. We are dealing with a place that has a completely different language and culture, as well as totally different employment and ethical standards. If you haven't been here long enough to even partially acculturate, you really know nothing. Did you even learn enough Mandarin to understand what the 7-11 clerks were saying to you every time walked in? How can you honestly say you knew what was going on around you? How do you know if your school was fully honest, corrupt, or a little of both? Think carefully about that. Think carefully about this. Some people I know recently found out their ARCs weren't entitling them to work legally in all their school's outlets. They were nearly deported after thinking they were working "legally"(whatever that is). So much for all Taiwanese being honest, eh Jason? Being here is the only way to learn how to navigate all the shades of grey encountered here. And it takes a while before you're even aware of their presence. Honestly, your time here gave you a very superficial understanding of the culture and virtually none of the language. By saying this, I'm not claiming to be an expert in either of them, but I'm putting in the time and effort to learn (again, unlike you). And like I said before, I've never claimed to be a Taiwan expert.
Well, Jason it's pretty clear to me that you are only coming to this forum to insult and belittle. That's all you've done recently. You say you've received pms. Haven't we all? The difference is most of mine have been thank you letters from people I've warned about you when you've, once again, claimed to be a Taiwan expert, something you are clearly not. |
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jason_seeburn
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Dominate a forum, Jason? Take a glance at how many posts you've made as compared to me. I've been on this forum longer and made far fewer posts. I think you're the one who's trying to dominate. You never let an issue drop and you try to "win" discussions rather than try to learn anything (forget about admitting you don't know something). |
-you told me not to post here. That's dominating. I'm not here to learn, I'm here to advise. You forget that I'm no longer on the island.
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| You refer to me as an old timer. Firstly, I haven't been here very long (but a good deal longer than you WERE). Secondly, time spent here absolutely makes a difference in your knowledge base with regards to Taiwan. We are dealing with a place that has a completely different language and culture, as well as totally different employment and ethical standards. If you haven't been here long enough to even partially acculturate, you really know nothing. |
Hmmmm, and yet I managed to get over on a one way ticket, start an English school, teach for 9 months, and then leave by breaking my contract, without any trouble, and bring home all of my money, and the only problem I ever ran into was a Canadian customs officer who wanted to arrest me because I had beef jerky in my backpack? I'd say I did better than most. If Taiwan was a woman, I got what I wanted, without any commitment.
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| Did you even learn enough Mandarin to understand what the 7-11 clerks were saying to you every time walked in? How can you honestly say you knew what was going on around you? How do you know if your school was fully honest, corrupt, or a little of both? Think carefully about that. |
-I have no recollection of what the clerks said to me. That wasn't something I noticed. I was in a 7-11 in Downsview yesterday and I can't remember what the clerk said to me there either. I can't remember what my roommate said to me last night when I walked into the living room. Why do these things matter? My school was run by two teachers who worked in an elementary school across the street. It was owned by the wife's mother, and started by yours truly. I left them pretty prosperous (my assistant got them another teacher). They seemed like the nicest people I've ever met. I guess I should be calling you on your attempt to call a school corrupt that you've never been to or seen, just based on a negative stereotype that all schools in Taiwan are corrupt.
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| Think carefully about this. Some people I know recently found out their ARCs weren't entitling them to work legally in all their school's outlets. They were nearly deported after thinking they were working "legally"(whatever that is). So much for all Taiwanese being honest, eh Jason? |
If you don't like them, why are you there?
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| Being here is the only way to learn how to navigate all the shades of grey encountered here. And it takes a while before you're even aware of their presence. Honestly, your time here gave you a very superficial understanding of the culture and virtually none of the language. |
Wow. So you don't know me, have never met me, but you know all this stuff about me. I'm happy you are navigating your shades of grey. I was just working at an English school.
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| By saying this, I'm not claiming to be an expert in either of them, but I'm putting in the time and effort to learn (again, unlike you). And like I said before, I've never claimed to be a Taiwan expert. |
I just give advice on what I know. I don't think that I've given any bad advice. Sometimes people take what I say the wrong way, but I am not responsible for other people's stupidity. I assume a certain level of intelligence. If not, too bad for you.
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| Well, Jason it's pretty clear to me that you are only coming to this forum to insult and belittle. That's all you've done recently. |
I insult those who insult me. I tell people to come over on a one way ticket, and get flames and insults like you wouldn't believe. But it is the easiest way to get on the island. That is advice. I am not insulting anyone.
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| You say you've received pms. Haven't we all? The difference is most of mine have been thank you letters from people I've warned about you when you've, once again, claimed to be a Taiwan expert, something you are clearly not. |
Wow, all your PMs are about me. I just feel so special. Considering I've only interacted with you on two topic postings, I find that amazing. Either that, or I find that total BS.
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brian
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| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| You forget that I'm no longer on the island. |
Trust us. The quality of the advice that you give leaves no doubt that you don�t actually live here.
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| Secondly, time spent here absolutely makes a difference in your knowledge base with regards to Taiwan. We are dealing with a place that has a completely different language and culture, as well as totally different employment and ethical standards. |
This is correct. Sure the longer someone is here doesn�t automatically mean that that individual knows everything about Taiwan, but commonsense dictates that experience of situations counts. The fact of the matter is that Taiwan is a very dynamic society and as such anything that we post today may quickly become outdated. Once you stop living on the island your previous experiences start to become outdated. This doesn�t mean that you shouldn�t still share your experiences. It just means that you have to accept that these experiences may not be as valid now as they used to be. Accept that there are opposing opinions and move on.
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| Hmmmm, and yet I managed to get over on a one way ticket, start an English school, teach for 9 months, and then leave by breaking my contract, without any trouble, and bring home all of my money� |
I am sure that some people have gotten away with even more than you did. Good luck to them. The fact remains however that this board is about sharing experiences (which Jason has done) and sharing facts about how things work here (which is what the rest of us are trying to do). Nobody has taken Jason to task for sharing his experiences. The problem that arises is when Jason makes sweeping generalizations about how things are always done here in Taiwan based solely upon his narrow experiences.
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| I have no recollection of what the clerks said to me. |
There�s your answer Taoyuan_steve. Jason clearly doesn�t have a good grounding in Chinese as he admits that he doesn�t even know what the 7-11 clerks say every time you walk in the door. Whilst this in itself is inconsequential, it certainly exposes how little involvement Jason could have had in the process of setting up a school, all of which would have been conducted in Chinese. Sure the bosses would have translated stuff, but we all know how much actually gets overlooked when this happens. Jason�s importance in the school set up has certainly become a lot clearer.
| jason_seeburn wrote: |
| I tell people to come over on a one way ticket, and get flames and insults like you wouldn't believe. |
Jason check back through the posts. No one insulted nor belittled you over your claim to have arrived here on a one-way ticket � they merely offered an opposing point of view on the matter. It was your insecurity on the issue that caused you to initiate insults against others, and I think that everyone would agree that remarkable restraint (read maturity) has been shown by all posters here in not returning these insults.
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| You say you've received pms. Haven't we all? The difference is most of mine have been thank you letters from people I've warned about you when you've, once again, claimed to be a Taiwan expert, something you are clearly not. |
The PM�s that I receive are in thanks for solid, researched advice. It isn�t uncommon for the authors of these to make reference to Jason, but as Taoyuan Steve has said, these references to Jason are not very positive. I am sure that Jason has his followers and good luck to them. The advice is here, readers can feel free to take from these boards whatever they please.
Once again Jason, why not use your considerable knowledge on Taiwan to actually build the information base of this site, rather than using it as a reference tool to try to knock down the advice of others. Start an informative post that proves how wrong we all are about you. |
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Fortigurn
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Are these forums moderated at all? I would like to see Seeburn go.  |
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