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ngantuk



Joined: 08 Feb 2008
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Location: Indonesia

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Job Offer Reply with quote

That sounds around the mark for someone with your experience etc - includes food u say ? Not a bad deal as I hear that u enjoy a good meal ! U do have a TESOL or TEFL certificate, don't you ?
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n3ptne



Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Location: MI

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No TEFL/TESOL/CELTA.

I'm thinking about getting one before I come though.

Would that dramatically improve the pay?
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malu



Joined: 22 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

n3ptne wrote:
No TEFL/TESOL/CELTA.

I'm thinking about getting one before I come though.

Would that dramatically improve the pay?


Yes... inasmuch as you could apply to more reputable employers. I don't know where ngantuk has been for the past few years but 8M plus crappy shared housing plus the odd nasi bungkus is NOT a good deal. Those condidtions are very much entry level.
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ngantuk



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With less than a year in Korea and no Certificate, I would think that a wage of 8M with food n housing is as good as can be expected. Less than entry level qualifications with minimal experience. As malu said, a Certificate will see you in a higher wage bracket and a better school etc.

Depends on your qualifications.

Apart from a few months in Korea, what other teaching experience do you have and do you have a degree ?
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malu



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ngantuk wrote:
With less than a year in Korea and no Certificate, I would think that a wage of 8M with food n housing is as good as can be expected.


Ah. I read the earlier posts too swiftly and missed the bit about length of service in Korea. I was assuming that the poster had worked there much longer from his/her 'been there, done that' responses.
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JZer



Joined: 16 Jan 2005
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Location: Pittsburgh

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And if you are going to teach 43 hours a week then you may as well be in the best paying countries as your free time will be zero. Go to korea or even Japan if the curent strength of the yen holds.


That is likely to get you deported from Korea.

Go to Japan you can do all the English teaching you like without fear of immigration deporting you.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone pm me a site that advertises jobs in Jakarta? I mean a local site that is only for Indonesia.
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Vertumnus



Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Indonesia

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rayman wrote:
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However, are you sure about those age limits? I've been told that 55 is the 'retiring' age not 70 as you've posted, and the Immigration Dept are fairly strict about this. (when it suits them).


Hi Guru, you're correct. By law, the age limit is 55 years. But practically speaking, I know of a large number of people teaching in ESL (and international schools) aged over 55 years. So basically, people over 55 years can and do work in teaching, but they wouldn't be given a KITAS. Instead, it would be cash in hand. Most use a social budaya or business visa. The same goes for other nationals not on the list of English speaking countries e.g. Holland, Norway etc.


I concur.

-D
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Vertumnus



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

n3ptne wrote:
Because Korea was too much.

Too much work, got burned out.

Came to the US for a year, hung out in Maui, LA, and a few other places and now I'm looking to see another part of the world (i.e. i'm broke).

Been to the Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam... but never Indonesia. Looked at some job offers in the Middle East & Europe, but they don't offer year round warm weather and sunny beaches that feature drinks with little straw hats.

I'm not coming to Indonesia to make money... I just want to make sure I can take care of the few bills that I do have and to live well, relax on a few beaches, and enjoy Indonesia... which was the exact opposite of what I did in Korea.

Savvy?

Having said that... is it advisable to get a job locked in before I come to Indonesia? Or show up and find one?

A few of the schools I've been in contact with offer around 8M/month + apartment + food allowance + reimbursed airfare + bonus after 1 year.

Is 8M way too low?

Could I get my airfare reimbursed if I travel before signing a contract?


As others have said, 8M in Jakarta is entry level. Shoot higher if you've got the experience in different countries. Or try another part of Indonesia...The salaries may not be as high as Jakarta, but neither are the cost of living, corruption, traffic problems, flooding, etc....Smile

-D
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