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Marcoregano

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 872 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Indeed, the OP seems to have retreated - to the cave perhaps? 'Troll' is an interesting word - here's some background...
troll (n.)
"Ugly dwarf or giant," 1616, from O.N. troll "giant, fiend, demon." Some speculate that it originally meant "creature that walks clumsily," and derives from P.Gmc. *truzlan, from *truzlanan (see troll (v.)). But it seems to have been a general supernatural word, cf. Swed. trolla "to charm, bewitch;" O.N. trolldomr "witchcraft." The old sagas tell of the troll-bull, a supernatural being in the form of a bull, as well as boar-trolls. There were troll-maidens, troll-wives, and troll-women; the trollman, a magician or wizard, and the troll-drum, used in Lappish magic rites. The word was popularized in Eng. by 19c. antiquarians, but it has been current in the Shetlands and Orkneys since Viking times. The first record of it is from a court document from the Shetlands, regarding a certain Catherine, who, among other things, was accused of "airt and pairt of witchcraft and sorcerie, in hanting and seeing the Trollis ryse out of the kyrk yeard of Hildiswick." Originally conceived as a race of giants, they have suffered the same fate as the Celtic Danann and are now regarded in Denmark and Sweden as dwarfs and imps supposed to live in caves or under the ground. |
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austeacher
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 91 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:07 am Post subject: The Gloat thread |
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The direct quote as requested by Cohen. Gloat, verb and noun * v, intransitive (often followed by on, upon, over) consider or contemplate with lust, greed, malice, triumph, etc (n.b etc). Example, "gloated over his collection". Noun. 1 the act of gloating. 2 a look or expression of satisfaction. Followed by 2 other entries gloater and goatingly.
I concede Cohen is correct in stating greed, lust, malice, triumph as nouns. And always has one 'l'; to err is human. And I concede that: "The adjective forms are 'greedy', 'malicious', and 'triumphant' respectively".
If you note the entry "etc" one can assume that other nouns can hypothetically be used, such as "Envy". After all,"envy" is listed under the rubric of "mortal sins" in the bible; as is greed, lust and malice.
"Gloatingly" would be listed as an adverb of manner if you care to refer to a generic grammar book. "Gloating", I have decided not slyly as you claim, is a verb in the present progressive context; as I have used it in the original posting, even so, you may disagree with my decision. Nor do I care if you disagree.
Now, as I said in one of my replies, writers continually morf or modify words to suit a register of writing. What is wrong with that?
So you work at a University. It does not make you any better than anybody else. No Cohen, I do not want you to bow down to me because I have not assumed I am anymore knowledgeable than you or anybody else in this forum.
I am a modest guy. And I thought I would retreat as Marc says for a cooling off period. From what I have noticed on these forums, and Marcoregano stated it himself, people can be over pedantic and pick on every bird of a feather. Frankly, I can not be bothered and would rather read a book.
But since Marcoregano said I retreated, , I thought I had better make an apearance and concede to my errors.
I should also point out that I wear reading spectacles as I have a defective eye. When scripts are too small I make so many errors it's a joke.
Another thing, I did apply for a hundred odd jobs or so and can honestly say I do not have a whole lot of experience. It has very little to do with being either self-righteous or academically self-aggrandising. But I am sure it may have something to do with specific teaching qualifications that meet a school's criteria. I did forget to mention that four schools replied and am on file. That was the best result I got.
It was not meant to be a troll FGS! I intended it as a genuine posting!
I am a big fan of Leonard Cohen. Have a nice day or night wherever you are. |
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Marcoregano

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 872 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Welcome back Austeacher! And yes, agreed, Leonard Cohen is excellent! Moving on from all the above nonsense, I stand by my earlier advice - try applying direct to NET in HK or better still, if you can afford it, come out here and get stuck in. |
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Cohen
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Yep, I'd certainly agree about Leonard Cohen ("But the skylight is like skin for a drum I'll never mend"). And not just his music. I'm now also getting into his writing/novels. I can recomend 'The Favourite Game', which I've just finished. |
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austeacher
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 91 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:50 am Post subject: Leonard Cohen |
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Cohen, recommend has two 'ms', you merely placed one 'm' in your recomend.
Nevermind. "Death of a ladies man" by Cohen L. What an album. If there is an album that will save your soul from damnation, that would have to be it!
For the record, because I am so absent minded and getting a bit old; when I applied for those jobs online, other than the paucity of schools that replied, a few stated to apply direct to the EDB/EMB. Coincidentally, last week the EDB has advertised for teachers for the late 2009/2010 year.
It makes no difference if one applies directly to the schools or through the EDB. But for security purposes I am guessing the schools would rather wait for the recruitment year to begin and have EDB/EMB personnel deal with us whites. |
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Marcoregano

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 872 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: Re: Leonard Cohen |
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austeacher wrote: |
It makes no difference if one applies directly to the schools or through the EDB. But for security purposes I am guessing the schools would rather wait for the recruitment year to begin and have EDB/EMB personnel deal with us whites. |
Surely it makes far more sense to apply through the EDB - it only requires one application form for 200 (or whatever) schools! |
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austeacher
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 91 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:23 am Post subject: Technical mammal adviser. |
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I know this may not matter much but it is a waste of space to start a new thread. Now with the economic downturn, and the reduction of jobs everywhere around the globe, Australia included, NET scheme bureaucrats will have a field day selecting whom they choose. The competition will be a lot tougher as more teachers will be looking for work. Bureaucrats in the NET scheme are in an aggrandized position to select the most qualified of candidates for employment in schools.
That means it will be harder for NET applicants with a degree but no teaching qualification to have any success for meeting teaching and employment criteria to work at a Hong Kong school. A cull in NET numbers is a good thing too as it is unfair on teachers with teaching qualifications who have not had as much luck in being selected in the past. Though I am sure being in Hong Kong for the NET selection process helps a lot. |
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