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funkystuff

Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 62
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| forest1979 wrote: |
| They don't use TOEFL or IELTS as the Taiwanese scores are so low (on average). This is a means of navigating around the reality of appalling English standards, and so presenting some form of certification to enrolled students which can be used in the local workplace. And make money from it. |
You're bang on there, forest. Also, from what I've found online about this GEPT test, it seems that Taiwan is rationalising their low IELTS/TOEFL scores, arguing that those "foreign" tests are culturally biased. OK, so invent a test that focuses on Taiwan and its rich cultural heritage and that'll bump up the scores. Or will it? Of course not. I'm waiting for the next creation. What'll it be? Answer these 10 questions in English: 1. What is the capital of Taiwan? 2. At what famous landmark do friends usually meet at the weekend? 3. What food is Hualien famous for? And so on. I think most students could at least get 50% if the questions are multiple choice. |
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forest1979

Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 507 Location: SE Asia
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Funky - three points:
1. Well said. Make the questions so darn easy even a dog could get some points, and so acquire a 'pass'.
2. Have it taught by teachers who really think English levels are good in Taiwan, or boost up grades because students 'try'. This latter factor is an endemic 'disease' in ELCs in Taiwan.
3. Culturally biased? To what? And whom? Oh, you mean the questions don't refer to Taiwan, and are too difficult for people to guess the answers. Well, lets rewrite the GEPT so that everyone can get a high grade in Taiwan. Here goes!
Taipei has a big tower. Its name includes three numbers. What are the number in its name? Clue: it includes the numbers 1, 0, and 1:
a) Taipei 8,999 Tower
b) Taipei 66,351 Tower
c) Taipei 101 Tower
d) Tower 423,724 Tower |
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funkystuff

Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 62
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| forest1979 wrote: |
Taipei has a big tower. Its name includes three numbers. What are the number in its name? Clue: it includes the numbers 1, 0, and 1:
a) Taipei 8,999 Tower
b) Taipei 66,351 Tower
c) Taipei 101 Tower
d) Tower 423,724 Tower |
Using my tried and tested exam strategies given to me by my Taiwanese-English teacher, I'd confidently say d. Why? Well, 1+0+1= 2, and the only answer where we find the number 2 is d. So, it's gotta be d. Oh, just noticed: The number 2 appears twice in d. That confirms it . . . definitely a capital D. |
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Miyazaki
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 635 Location: My Father's Yacht
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| forest1979 wrote: |
Taipei has a big tower. Its name includes three numbers. What are the number in its name? Clue: it includes the numbers 1, 0, and 1:
a) Taipei 8,999 Tower
b) Taipei 66,351 Tower
c) Taipei 101 Tower
d) Tower 423,724 Tower |
Very funny!
| forest1979 wrote: |
| They don't use TOEFL or IELTS as the Taiwanese scores are so low (on average). This is a means of navigating around the reality of appalling English standards, and so presenting some form of certification to enrolled students which can be used in the local workplace. And make money from it. |
Excellent point.
You summed it up exactly as how I see it also. |
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forest1979

Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 507 Location: SE Asia
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| There's also a new trend that has emerged in the past few years. That is to encourage ELC staff to get PhDs. Because ELC staff traditionally only hold a MA it's increasingly the norm to get them to get an event higher degree. Accordingly staff are being 'encouraged' to register with other unis in Taiwan, or to go overseas - with their job being held for a year. Of course there is one small snag to this problem. Getting a PhD takes years!!! So, how can this be solved. Get unis to register their own staff for PhDs within their uni departments!! The fact that ELC staff might be asked to do something is management or business studies is irrelevant - it's all about numbers on documents. Anyone else found this? |
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forest1979

Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 507 Location: SE Asia
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:29 am Post subject: |
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A point to raise to everyone and in particular the OP in relation to what the interviewee was offered as an employment package.
The person was offered a 1.5 month salary bonus for Chinese New Year, right? Well when I first came to Taiwan despite being told that I would receive a 1.5 month bonus I never received the full amount as it, the 1.5 months, was calcuable to 12 months of work done. So, having started in September of the previous year I thus only received about 50% of the 1.5 month bonus I was originally told I would get, and once tax was taken off it - 20% - I didn't receive a great deal. Or put it this way it was substantially less than the 1.5 month total menetioned to me at my interview.
By my second year I did received the full bonus but for my first year I remember feeling like I was being cheated. Beware of 'ghost' admin rules in such situations, that my advice.
Oh, and this was with a very well known university in Taipei. |
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