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Going to the Doctor in Japan
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David W



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ime;
Pain killers will be weak and doctors are unlikely to give you the good stuff i.e opioids. Surgery can be an ordeal, Japanese have a different view of pain.
Can easily get benzos including Rohypnol, Halcion etc though so it's not all bad.
Asthma medication is behind what we have in Australia though getting better. If you have hay fever bring Beconase.
OTC pain killers are ibuprofen and paracetamol. Cold/ cough medicines will have codeine (yay!).
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elkarlo



Joined: 08 Dec 2008
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Location: Maryland

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
elkarlo wrote:
Gaijin smash told me. By junky I mean prescribing inappropriate medicines. I have read many a story where in Japan a person did not get the treatment needed.
This happens everywhere, not just in Japan. Don't point too many fingers.

What I love is what was mentioned above. That is, every prescription comes with something to settle your stomach. Uh, why? Is the other medicine that harsh despite lower dosages? Oh, well.

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Not preexisting. I injured myself. Wrestling and the such will do that to a person, especially when one tries to go up several weightclasses.
By preexisting, I mean you had treatment and diagnosis elsewhere before you went to the J doctor.

It's like diabetes. If you have it, then come to Japan and just ask for insulin, you have to be diagnosed first. At least that's the experience of a friend.

As for dentist visits, people have reported that they just tell the dentist they want something done without a lot of visits, and the dentist complies. You just have to ask.

Regarding presciptions, there is no "gray area". It's a clear link, if you want to call it kickback or not. And, yes, I also believe that they prescribe tons partly for that kickback.

Isn't it nice, though, that because the average consultation with a doctor here takes an average of 2-3 minutes talking time, the government has just upped that to a mandatory 5 minutes?!


Not quite. That's like saying I had a headache last year, this year I have another, and that's pre-existing.

Haha, ok so it's out right corruption. Hotdog! Well have you figured out what meds they prescribe work, and which ones are filler besides the stomach soothing one?

5 minutes? That's not too bad, I will be able to stammer out some problems that I want taken care of. Is is a get you in get you out asap system?
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elkarlo



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JL wrote:
Glenski wrote:

Regarding presciptions, there is no "gray area". It's a clear link, if you want to call it kickback or not. And, yes, I also believe that they prescribe tons partly for that kickback.


By saying "gray area", maybe I didn't use the best possible euphemism. For readers of this thread who are still learning the ways of Japanese society, it is true that these compensatory arrangements are not illegal (at least I think they still aren't. If they're now proscribed, that's news to me.) But I, and others, happen to consider them highly unethical, for obvious reasons. And when pressed, many doctors admit this. But as payments for office visits and treatments are regulated, this supplementary source of physician / clinic income, is tolerated. A very strong doctor's lobby keep this in place. Same can be said for the dentist's lobby. Every time the Health Ministry tries to introduce fluoride into the drinking water, it gets quashed.

In all fairness to Japan, however, I'd have to say that America's lack of any health care for over 40,000,000 citizens is a travesty. And I understand that waits treatment for non-life threatening conditions in places like Canada or the UK, can be exasperatingly long. The Japanese system has its warts. But whose doesn't, these days?


You know as much as I don't like that. I also dislike doctors being paid very little. It takes a lot of work to become a doc, so there must be a reward for it. If they are not paid well then many will not enter the field. My older brother is a Nuero surgeon. He is very smart and driven. he would have done a different profession if it paid better, or required less effort to get in. Said he'd go into plumbing if he was 10 years younger, as the system will not reward him for really 10 years of post BS education.

So if this gets some people will drive and or smarts to become docs in Japan, can't argue to much against it.
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