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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some westerners who wear the thob and have done so for years.

I had an British-Egyptian colleague who normally wore a suit and tie but one day came to work in Saudi dress. I asked him why. "Well, I didn't feel like doing anything today, so I thought I'd dress appropriately."
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Haha, good one.

Dear john,

Are you sure those reverts also wore the black ring? I highly doubt it. Reverts and very religious people do not wear the black ring, and have their thobes a couple of inches above their ankles.

But even if they did, as I said, it is just one of those laws that is not--and should not be--enforced.

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trap
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007



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, don�t you see that I am wearing a nice white thobe with a ghutra, and a double black ring with a laser control (as in 007 films! Laughing ).

BTW, some Saudis use their black double ring to beat their children!

The black ring has a sacred meaning in some Saudi tribes, if a Saudi needs help from another Saudi, he will throw his black ring in front of him, which means a 'submission' and a request for a service or a favour which is difficult to refuse!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Sacred' is not the word you were looking for there. (even Saudis themselves would find the use of that word in that context to be blasphemous)

As for using it as a weapon, they even use it on each other during traffic accidents.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those darned things were banned at the King Faisal School during my tenure as the young punks used to beat each other with them. Then, someone showed them how to snap a towel on someone else resulting with ghutras being banned as well. God, I miss those days, not! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue eyes and fair skin are incongruous with a thob or dishdasha (IMHO). Brits, Americans, Canadians etc. look ridiculous in the local garb.
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007



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trapezius wrote:
'Sacred' is not the word you were looking for there. (even Saudis themselves would find the use of that word in that context to be blasphemous)

Well, I used the word 'sacred' in a non-spiritual context (i.e. social context). Example of this, family honor is also considered as �sacred� thing which should not be crossed in the Saudi society!

sheikh wrote:
Blue eyes and fair skin are incongruous with a thob or dishdasha (IMHO). Brits, Americans, Canadians etc. look ridiculous in the local garb.

Well, your countryman, Lawrence, which has blue eyes looked chic with his Saudi thobe and Ghutra, and double white ring!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ljidda.jpg


Well, there are some Saudis and Syrians whose eyes are blue/green and fair skin look chic with thobe and double black ring egaal.


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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheikh radlinrol wrote:
Blue eyes and fair skin are incongruous with a thob or dishdasha (IMHO). Brits, Americans, Canadians etc. look ridiculous in the local garb.

Ah, but dear SR, you broad brush those from the West...I wuz referring to the more "dusky" type...in which case, no distinction can be discerned!



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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

007 wrote:

Well, your countryman, Lawrence, which has blue eyes looked chic with his Saudi thobe and Ghutra, and double white ring! .

Uncle Bond, you are pulling my p******, aren't you? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
sheikh radlinrol wrote:
Blue eyes and fair skin are incongruous with a thob or dishdasha (IMHO). Brits, Americans, Canadians etc. look ridiculous in the local garb.

Ah, but dear SR, you broad brush those from the West...I wuz referring to the more "dusky" type...in which case, no distinction can be discerned!



NCTBA

NCTBA
I'm not dusky! Are you? Would you feel at ease in KSA dressed in the local garb? It hides bald pates and big bellies. I have neither!
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

007 wrote:

Well, there are some Saudis and Syrians whose eyes are blue/green and fair skin look chic with thobe and double black ring egaal.

I think you may have misunderstood my comment. I was simply suggesting that some British, Americans and Canadians look ''out of place'' in Arab dress. I wasn't suggesting that such dress was ''ridiculous''. Accept my apologies.
SR
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheikh radlinrol wrote:
Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
sheikh radlinrol wrote:
Blue eyes and fair skin are incongruous with a thob or dishdasha (IMHO). Brits, Americans, Canadians etc. look ridiculous in the local garb.

Ah, but dear SR, you broad brush those from the West...I wuz referring to the more "dusky" type...in which case, no distinction can be discerned!



NCTBA

NCTBA
I'm not dusky! Are you? Would you feel at ease in KSA dressed in the local garb? It hides bald pates and big bellies. I have neither!

Nor me, either...I'm as white as the driven snow,,,which in PC-speak is color-less...that being me not being a "person of colour"...as to the second comment...I have one...or....the other, Very Happy




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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
sheikh radlinrol wrote:
Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
sheikh radlinrol wrote:
Blue eyes and fair skin are incongruous with a thob or dishdasha (IMHO). Brits, Americans, Canadians etc. look ridiculous in the local garb.

Ah, but dear SR, you broad brush those from the West...I wuz referring to the more "dusky" type...in which case, no distinction can be discerned!



NCTBA

NCTBA
I'm not dusky! Are you? Would you feel at ease in KSA dressed in the local garb? It hides bald pates and big bellies. I have neither!

Nor me, either...I'm as white as the driven snow,,,which in PC-speak is color-less...that being me not being a "person of colour"...as to the second comment...I have one...or....the other, Very Happy




NCTBA

So you're fair-skinned. As for the other? I have a full head of hair, the other thing is incipient. (Perhaps, my age, 54 has something to do with that.)
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sheik,

"Perhaps, my age, 54 has something to do with that."

But then again, perhaps not. I'm 66, weigh 140 pounds and an 5' 9" tall.
Has your life become a bit more sedentary, possibly?
Oh - and I have all my hair, too - snow white, of course.

Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear SR, as for the second thing, I'd contemplate my belly-button...if only I could see it! And, I've got full head of hair. 54! Congrats! I turned a half century last year! Crying or Very sad

NCTBA (a.k.a. "The kid" Laughing )
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