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Eyrick3



Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 161
Location: Beijing, China

PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tax free
F visa

This is clearly a shady program.


You're basing this assumption of two pieces of information that are universal throughout China?

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If you receive a salary you are required by law to pay tax - unless of course it is below the threshold for paying taxes.


This is also incorrect. Many schools don't require their teachers to pay taxes, regardless of how much they make.

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Ignore other people who say to do it or "we do it all the time."


Anyone who has spent any amount of time in China knows that the rules apply differently to different people. This particular situation may work very well for lots of people out there.
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Itsme



Joined: 11 Aug 2004
Posts: 624
Location: Houston, TX

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a few options
1) Go on an F visa.. extend it.. do whatever you want.
2) Don't go. Try and find a job that will give you a z visa before you go (100 x harder)
3) sit on the fence a while longer while others go and take the job you are missing out on.
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evaforsure



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you receive a salary you are required by law to pay tax - unless of course it is below the threshold for paying taxes.


This is also incorrect. Many schools don't require their teachers to pay taxes, regardless of how much they make.



Incorrect? So you maintain that a school can decide if taxes are to be collected ..... You do understand that tax collection is under the domain of the Goverment and havng taken a que from western goverments, any income you earn while living in China is subject to the tax law... incl. interest on money saved..if resident of China any money you earn in the world is also subject to taxes...if the employer is not paying your tax under you number, then you couold possible become responsible for paying that tax and with the new reporting laws having just changed, there is even more need for a FT to insure his taxes are up to date.
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bearcanada



Joined: 04 Sep 2005
Posts: 312
Location: Calgary, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evaforsure is absolutely right. Tax must be paid on all income. Some schools may pay the tax directly and give a teacher the net amount, but the tax nevertheless must be paid. To suggest otherwise is silly.

It's true that some schools may not deduct nor pay the tax, but that leaves everyone including the teacher, open for trouble.

And to those who suggest working on a Business visa, you need to grow up. The deal presented by the original poster is clearly a fraud. What on earth possesses some of you to say it sounds good and to forget the laws here.
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Teatime of Soul



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you suppose shady outfits and crooked recruiters need a steady supply of gullible dupes?

So how, and where, do you think they dispense their reckless, self-serving advice?

Do you think anonymous forums might just be ideal for that purpose?
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glimmer



Joined: 27 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the web site of China's US Embassy:

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Business Visa (F Visa) is issued to an alien who is invited to China for a visit, an investigation, a lecture, to do business, scientific-technological and culture exchanges, short-term advanced studies or internship for a period of no more than six months.


The academy in question insists they they are offering internships, whatever the legal definition may be.
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