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Qualifications?????? Muddy water for newbies!!!!
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
Glenski wrote:
MajorMajor,
It appears that he doesn't have a degree.

I've known NZ babyfaces with only a HS diploma teaching in Japan on a WHV. Unless, they've changed the bloody rules, he doesn't require a tertiary degree. Evil or Very Mad



NCTBA
But he's 55 years old -- too old for a WHV.
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mackayscanland



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice! I have checking out CELTA locations!
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:20 am    Post subject: Re: Accreditation? Reply with quote

mackayscanland wrote:
I can get get a Bachelor's degree from Glendale University. It's accredited through NDLAC.


No! Don't do this. The minimum for a US school is regional accreditation. There are actually a couple of countries (Taiwan for sure) that won't even recognize schools like U of Phoenix since they only recognize brick-and-mortar schools.

I have a degree from Excelsior College. It is inexpensive and you can use CLEP/DANTES exams to test out of pretty much the first two years. The remainder of your exams will involve reading a textbook and going into a testing facility to take an exam in front of a computer. In either case it is *possible* to blow through a BA/BS degree in about two years if you are smart and obsessive. I had a year at U of Phoenix and did the final 3 years in 18 months! Regionally accredited and good enough for countries that aren't touchy about distance ed.

I personally went on to do an MA at an on-campus school so I have my bases covered.
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mackayscanland



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Get your Regional Degree! Reply with quote

That's what I was looking for. I was just curious. I have the knowkedge but not the paper! I actually just got admitted to Western Governors University, it's Regional, teacher's degree. They'll take a some credits and it's online. I kinda knew I had to bite the bullet on this one! No worries, 2-3 years, do the Regional degree, then go teach abroad!
If anyone could tell me the fastest way to a Degree and excepts A.O.S credits, I also have approx. 20 J.C. credits, that would be great!

Thanks for your message mlomker!!!
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JZer



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mackayscanland, if you insist doing an online program try to pick one at a school that also has a brick-and-mortar school. Thus, whereever you decide to teach they will not know the difference. I don't think that most schools that have a school as well as online program stamp online on the degree. Maybe some disagree but I think that is your safest bet.
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mackayscanland



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:53 am    Post subject: Excelsior Reply with quote

Checked out Excelsior! I believe This will be the school! their A.O.S friendly and online!
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Chancellor



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
mackayscanland, if you insist doing an online program try to pick one at a school that also has a brick-and-mortar school. Thus, whereever you decide to teach they will not know the difference. I don't think that most schools that have a school as well as online program stamp online on the degree. Maybe some disagree but I think that is your safest bet.
Many state universities here in the US offer distance learning/online degree programs, as do many regionally-accredited private universities. I agree with you that there is no difference in the degree at such schools whether done online or on campus.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with you that there is no difference in the degree at such schools whether done online or on campus.


That is the point. Why take the chance when you can get a degree from maybe one of the University of California campuses. Then no one will ever question your degree.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
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I agree with you that there is no difference in the degree at such schools whether done online or on campus.


That is the point. Why take the chance when you can get a degree from maybe one of the University of California campuses. Then no one will ever question your degree.
A degree from the University of California is the same whether the coursework was done online or on campus.

Not everyone has the kind of schedule where they can pursue a degree on campus somewhere. Most colleges/universities are not particularly accommodating to people who actually work for a living: you take classes on the school's schedule, not your schedule.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Chancellor!
I have been in search of the best online & Regionally accredited school lately and think I found Excelsior to be a good fit!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mackayscanland wrote:
Thank you Chancellor!
I have been in search of the best online & Regionally accredited school lately and think I found Excelsior to be a good fit!
While it does have a regional accreditation (the same accrediting body that accredited the SUNY schools), it might be viewed with suspicion by some employers simply because it is solely an online school (but only if they bother to google it). Ultimately, you have to find what best works for you in terms of accomplishing particular goals. Perhaps the school's degree in world language and literature since it doesn't offer an education degree.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Chancellor!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not everyone has the kind of schedule where they can pursue a degree on campus somewhere. Most colleges/universities are not particularly accommodating to people who actually work for a living: you take classes on the school's schedule, not your schedule.


The point was to try to get an online degree from the University of California if it is possible. That is why I said pick a brick and mortar school. Then the degree will have more value.

Anyways, I believe that some schools offer a weekend B.A. I believe that it is possible to attend a brick and mortar school even if one works for a living. It depends how bad you want it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mackayscanland wrote:
I found Excelsior to be a good fit!


It's tough to beat. They are almost infinitely flexible with transfer credits so I doubt you'll have any problems with your junior college credits being accepted. I spent $8k for one year at the U of Phoenix and only $3k to finish the degree at Excelsior.

In my opinion a bachelor's degree is just a piece of paper. The countries that don't like online schools are slim (just Taiwan, afaik) and they are quite simply wrong. My freshman year at U of Phoenix was more challenging (and expensive) than my on-campus MA degree.

A bit of trivia: Excelsior College use to be called Regents College. Regents College was the correspondence school (snail mail) for the entire University of New York system prior to being spun off and having its name changed. The school has been around for a very long time...as long as many prestigious schools have been in existence. A large percentage of their students are active military, taking the exams at whatever base they happen to find themselves at.
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Herman Blume



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mlomker wrote:
mackayscanland wrote:
I found Excelsior to be a good fit!


It's tough to beat. They are almost infinitely flexible with transfer credits so I doubt you'll have any problems with your junior college credits being accepted. I spent $8k for one year at the U of Phoenix and only $3k to finish the degree at Excelsior.

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Another good thig about Excelsior is that they will accept college credits no matter how long ago you earned them. Most schools will not accept credits older than 7 years old or so.
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