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spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

johnslat wrote:
I have no background in finance or in money management at all and honestly no interest in them either. I am in the ESL/EFL industry with a degree in TESOL and Applied Linguistics . I've always wanted to invest other people's money and being paid for doing so sounds very enticing. I was wondering if any of you had any problems with employers overseas because you went into finance for a while, which has nothing to do with your career industry.

Entice replied:
Hahaha, wow...I am just sorta speechless. I am guessing your trying to mock me with some sort of analogy? Hope you realize you failed and make absolutely no sense. Can someone reword his post to at least make sense?

Are you implying that finance and money managment require dedication, actual qualifications, and some genuine interest n the job, and teaching does not?

entice · Joined: 19 Mar 2009 Posts: 5

johnslat · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject:

DAMN I am going to feel sorry for the kids that you are going to end up teaching. LOL /NO joke

sheikh radlinrol · Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain

Dear Entice.
Before you embark on your teaching career (however short it may be), you would do well to acquire some tact and courtesy. It will stand you in good stead in the classroom.
Regards
SR

Justin Trullinger · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject:

Dear Entice,

I'm sorry that your first experience with this board was to get flamed. It's a shame, because a lot of the regular posters here are generally extremely helpful to potential newbies. I know them to be kind, thoughtful, dedicated professionals who have been there, done that, and would like to make it easier for others to do likewise. I'm proud to count myself amongst them.

The fact that you have no interest in teaching, as you stated in your first post, sort of set a lot of us off. Again, sorry if I was rude- but let me put it this way- I don't mind if you want to teach for only a year or two, as a way to travel, then get out of it. A lot of people do that, and do a fine job.

It was your stated lack of interest that was a turnoff. And when called on it, you responded that "I just won't put any extra effort say I was working back at home."

Pardon me, but advertising that you won't make the same effort as in a job back home sort of makes us not want to help you. Because we've all had colleagues who put in no extra effort, and we've had to clean up the messes they made and put out the fires they started. Teaching takes an extra effort to do it right, and if you don't wanna...please, stay home.

About JohnSlat's "incoherent" post. He was implying that YOU wouldn't like it if he tried to get into your career field without interest in it, and that HE feels the same way about your aspiration to move into teaching without interest in it. Was this so hard to read?

Get it straight; I'm not saying you should "sugar coat the truth." (Meaning "lie," I think, based on your use of it.) I appreciate your honesty. I just think that, given your honest feelings about teaching, you won't enjoy it, and your students are unlikely to enjoy or learn from you. So to avoid a difficult year or two for yourself which might be damaging or at best time-wasting for others, I recommend that you consider carefully before embarking on a teaching adventure.

Best of luck in your future endeavours,

Justin

Sashadroogie · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject:

Well said, Justin!

johnson430 · Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 33 Location: Texas, USA

Teach because you want to change other people's lives, not your own.

Chancellor · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:40 am Post subject:

gaijinalways · Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279

Hmm, yes Entice, I think you have learned a valuable lesson in the use of tact (or not). People were responding to the way you worded your question, and you came off expressing that what most of do is;

1) not a professional career (strangely, I make far more money than I did as a 'professional' in the US)

2) that no work or little effort is required ( I guess you would have to contact me during times when I'm searching for recent and relevant information to update dated text material or to make supplmental material)

3) that we don't know the meaning of 'relevant' (really, was it that difficult to see what Denise and johnslat meant?)

And we wonder why some locals where we live dislike some of the foreigners who come to 'play Rolling Eyes

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Justin Trullinger · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject:

johnson430 · Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 33 Location: Texas, USA

khmerhit · Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject:

never mind all this dude--theres a institoot of highr lernin in camboida that needs peeple who cn teech
finanace and stufff its call pannasastra u. also ruusssia thtye need peelple wh can teech capitalism sthre. i think whatever you do you should just go!

good luck!!

Cambodia. try it and see Cool

Jetgirly · Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 741

gaijinalways · Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279

Jetgirly,

Prepping for an editing job? Good work Very Happy

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Yes, some posters need to brush up on their grammar. I was critiqued on another forum for my comma usage, though I gave up trying to reason with the crowd after pointing out that my commas were used correctly. What started it all? Someone using bad grammar intentionally to highlight his point, which I felt didn't work (the highlighting, I mean).

I think the OP's attitude would be a bigger stumbling block than his grammar, but what do I know after 17 years of teaching Cool

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