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MrMrLuckyKhan
Joined: 08 Feb 2008
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Location: Kingdom of Cambodia
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 Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:38 pm Post subject: maybe i just got lucky |
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I had a contract with a school in Medan, and after only working for 9 months I was ready to leave. Things started going down hill so I was willing to break it early at all costs near the end of November 2008. They agreed to NOT charge me any fees for breaking my contract early, give me the second half of my airfare reimbursement, AND give me my full, pro-rated 'end of year performance bonus' as long as I agreed to work through December since they are super busy during that time and already short staffed.
The Director was very reasonable with me. Our contracts did state you will end up owing about $100 for every month you leave early, and pay for some other things, forfeit your end of year performance bonus, and will not receive the second half of your airfare reimbursement, but luckily he was very reasonable with me and others on this issue.
All I can say is you should discuss this with your employer BEFORE you accept a job; or better yet, not accept a job that wouldn't even cover this clearly in the contract.  |
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junan70
Joined: 16 Apr 2008
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Location: UK
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If after 6 months you still do not have a KITAS, contract, work permit and are not tax registered, then I would not have much sympathy for your employer and would actually advise you to leave and work for someone who does things properly.
If you have signed a contract and are working legally then I would say the employer has every right to hold you to the terms of the contract. Normally contracts here stipulate that if either party breaks contract without an acceptable reason, the other party must pay out an amount equaling the monthly salary due for the remainder of the contract. So, if you earn 20m per month and break contract with 4 months to go you will have to pay the employer 80m.
If you have important reasons for leaving, try making a deal to your employer. If you don't have a very good reason for ending your contract then I agree with malu, you have made a commitment to someone and should see it through. |
Wow! How draconian is that?? I just left a 'permanent' contract with my local authority as a community worker. Gee I signed the contract, should I have stayed until I retired?? No, because people move on for MANY reasons and employment contracts stipulate that. Even as a state school teacher in the UK it was acknowledged that people may need to leave a contract earlier than planned. |
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junan70
Joined: 16 Apr 2008
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Location: UK
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.....having said all that, yeah teachers who take the pi*s really get on my nerves and let us down as a profession.
In my situation, I'm waiting on a an Australian visa which may well come through (but may not) while I'm in Indonesia teaching and I'll need to leave within a couple of months of it being granted.
I guess the way to do it would be to be honest with any potential employer and hope they wouldn't screw me contract wise. I've got a CELTA and a PGCE, so I don't fancy the backpacker/sweatshop circuit.
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malu
Joined: 22 Apr 2007
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Location: Sunny Java
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:02 am Post subject: |
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I've got a CELTA and a PGCE, so I don't fancy the backpacker/sweatshop circuit.
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You won't have much choice if all you can offer is 'maybe 5 months, maybe a year'. A PGCE is only useful at a national plus or international school and unless you can guarantee at least a full semester no school will take you on. The CELTA will get you a job with any of the language schools. |
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Vertumnus
Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Indonesia
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| Fishy wrote: |
If after 6 months you still do not have a KITAS, contract, work permit and are not tax registered, then I would not have much sympathy for your employer and would actually advise you to leave and work for someone who does things properly.
If you have signed a contract and are working legally then I would say the employer has every right to hold you to the terms of the contract. Normally contracts here stipulate that if either party breaks contract without an acceptable reason, the other party must pay out an amount equaling the monthly salary due for the remainder of the contract. So, if you earn 20m per month and break contract with 4 months to go you will have to pay the employer 80m.
If you have important reasons for leaving, try making a deal to your employer. If you don't have a very good reason for ending your contract then I agree with malu, you have made a commitment to someone and should see it through. |
Wow! How draconian is that?? I just left a 'permanent' contract with my local authority as a community worker. Gee I signed the contract, should I have stayed until I retired?? No, because people move on for MANY reasons and employment contracts stipulate that. Even as a state school teacher in the UK it was acknowledged that people may need to leave a contract earlier than planned. |
What is it that's draconian? You quoted three paragraphs with different opinions in them...
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