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Harry from NWE
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 283
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:50 am Post subject: |
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dynow wrote: |
the no dubbing on tv is a reflection of the "choices" those countries have made. routinely when i teach students from other parts of europe, they ALWAYS bring up the fact that they simply don't understand why there is a lektor speaking over everything. i haven't visited many countries in Europe but from what my foreign students tell me, they do not have a lektor on TV in their countries. again, it's a choice. |
Not really a choice in Poland, more of a necessity. To have subtitles you need people to have TVs of a certain size and picture quality of a certain level. Given that until very recently the picture quality out in the countryside was fairly terrible and people had small screens, subtitles weren't really much of an option. |
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Jack Walker

Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 412
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Many of my friends work in Polish public schools and none of them earns over 1200 zl per month.
They are overworked and grossly underpaid.
Why even bother with that? |
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Jack Walker

Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 412
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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.....and ZUS.......ZUS.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
What a joke! We all know how that works.
The Polish National Health "Service" is a sham.If you really need anything done,you have to pay for it on your own anyway.
My father-in-law has prostate surgery scheduled in a few weeks.He'd have to wait about 8 months through the national system, so he has to shell out the 2,000zl or so and get it done in a private hospital.
It's a great sham!
Been here 6 years and have always paid for my few basic mediacl procedures out of pocket, depsite paying heavily into the national system like all of us do. |
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Glenlivet
Joined: 21 Mar 2009 Posts: 179 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Jack Walker
My father-in-law has prostate surgery scheduled in a few weeks.He'd have to wait about 8 months through the national system, so he has to shell out the 2,000zl or so and get it done in a private hospital.[/quote]
No different in the UK. NHS is OK if you're dying (bad publicity if you die in hospital), otherwise don't forget your wallet. |
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Jack Walker

Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 412
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Glenlivet wrote: |
[quote="Jack Walker
My father-in-law has prostate surgery scheduled in a few weeks.He'd have to wait about 8 months through the national system, so he has to shell out the 2,000zl or so and get it done in a private hospital. |
No different in the UK. NHS is OK if you're dying (bad publicity if you die in hospital), otherwise don't forget your wallet.[/quote]
Yup,public health is ok when you are on death's door and for the multitude of hools and scums who get bashed with beer bottles.They have no choice but use this system. |
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citizen X
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Some people teach English at schools of higher education (Politechnika etc.). I've heard the wages there are comprable to these in private school of English or higher. |
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wildphelps
Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 39 Location: Lubuski
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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This is my last post on this thread.
My suggestion that some readers of this forum might consider teaching in a public school was just that - a suggestion. The reasons can be debated endlessly, yet I suppose it comes down to what type of professional/work experience one wants.
Yes, I am know one can make much more at a private language school. Some readers might want, however, to be informed about options for employment that offer:
- legal ways to work without a visa (a concern for non-EU people);
- ZUS/insurance benefits for themselves or family members (haven't we had several posters comment that they plan to relocate with children?);
- opportunities to interact with more Poles in a different type of setting to which most of the posters are accustomed.
The various comments to my suggestion are all valid; nonetheless, there are advantages that are there. Perhaps this thread is not the best place to get into a debate about the merits/drawbacks of teaching in Polish public schools, but if anyone has a sincere, earnest question, please feel free to PM me.
And the whole digression into subtitles - what exactly are the technical requirements needed for a TV that are so hard to master? If Sony/Sharp/Samsung can build 13-inch TVs that allow closed captioning in both English and Spanish in the States (as required by US law), what is the hang up here in the EU? |
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Harry from NWE
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 283
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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wildphelps wrote: |
And the whole digression into subtitles - what exactly are the technical requirements needed for a TV that are so hard to master? If Sony/Sharp/Samsung can build 13-inch TVs that allow closed captioning in both English and Spanish in the States (as required by US law), what is the hang up here in the EU? |
Now it is just transmission issue. But in the past it was both a transmission issue and a home-equipment issue. And remember than the TVs in the poorer reception areas of Poland also tend to be the lower quality and older TVs. |
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dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:44 am Post subject: |
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every country, even in today's times, has locations scattered around where people are poor or they farm and don't have any technology, etc. But, these countries still don't bother with a ridiculous lektor.
Poland still does.
So now that most people in Poland have normal TV's fully capable of subtitles, what's the excuse now? What has been the excuse for the past several years?
I'm not really asking anyone......just sayin'. |
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Harry from NWE
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: |
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dynow wrote: |
every country, even in today's times, has locations scattered around where people are poor or they farm and don't have any technology, etc. But, these countries still don't bother with a ridiculous lektor. |
At least from what I have seen, they generally go for dubbing rather than subtitles.
dynow wrote: |
So now that most people in Poland have normal TV's fully capable of subtitles, what's the excuse now? What has been the excuse for the past several years? |
You been to the countryside much? |
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dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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i have been to the countryside. spent all last week there as a matter of fact. they have NOTHING.
but i guess if poland isn't changing their television format so that they can suit the needs of the farmers and goat herders living in the sticks, it would only follow that "stuck in the past" polish attitude anyway.
Poland is in dire need of some form of tourism and/or more international integration/exposure/interest.......if I had a nickel for every time a student from somewhere other than Poland tells me how they don't even turn their TV's on because of the lektor......at least give foreigners SOMETHING to watch when they're sitting at home other than the CNN report for the 50th time. |
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simon_porter00
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 505 Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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buy cheap satellite dish.
buy cheap receiver.
point dish at English satellite.
Get English TV.
It really is that simple. Of course, you'll get 800 channels of utter crap, but there was a good deal on jewellry shopping channel the other day. |
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dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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i recently got NTV. i got all the channels for the first month. eventually i had to choose from 3 packages. in the beginning I had 999 channels. the ones worth watching are CNN, ESPN America......well.....that's it. I'd love to tune in to the Discovery channels which I receive, but I simply cannot turn the lektor off. NTV offers the option to turn off the lektor or at least reduce it to subtitles for example with the HBO channels, but the others, no such luck.
I don't pay for the HBO package because it's simply not HBO. it's a channel that says HBO in the corner that plays the same 10 movies over and over for an entire month.
my sports package has soccer, soccer, soccer, billiards, soccer, the occasional Rugby game, soccer, soccer and ESPN America. at the very least with ESPN America I can catch some MLB reruns from the day before and some playoff hockey. |
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