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JeffC



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In order to get a student visa I believe you would have to study Mandarin at a university language center. I don't think that any private language schools can offer more than a two month visa. Part of that is the result of the system being abused in the past. Schools were giving student visas to people who did not attend class


I was actually looking at a few university language centers, so I wouldn't be attempting to get a student visa just so I could teach. I looked around online and it seems that the general consensus is that you're not technically allowed to have a student visa and work.

I guess my real problem is that I'm afraid that I won't be able to find a job in Taiwan and I'll have wasted the considerable amount of money it costs for a plane ticket. Should this be a legitimate concern of mine, or am I just freaking myself out?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffC wrote:
I guess my real problem is that I'm afraid that I won't be able to find a job in Taiwan and I'll have wasted the considerable amount of money it costs for a plane ticket. Should this be a legitimate concern of mine, or am I just freaking myself out?
Well, there are no guarantees in life. That said, if you've no luck in Taiwan (and I can't think of why you shouldn't have when even the likes of me can find work), China is only a short flight away, and the demand there seems to be insatiable.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was actually looking at a few university language centers, so I wouldn't be attempting to get a student visa just so I could teach. I looked around online and it seems that the general consensus is that you're not technically allowed to have a student visa and work.


But you can getting a working visa and study in the morning which I did for one year. I attended Taiwan Normal University while working in the afternoon. I had a proper work permit thorugh Kid Castle. I might attend Taiwan Normal University for one more year starting September 2010.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If a plane ticket is yoru concern, go to korea for a year. They pay your plane ticket and return flight anywhere in the world. You also can save money to take to Taiwan with you.


Ha, that is if your boss does not cheat you. Many Korean bosses try to not pay that return ticket if they can. Firing people during the 11th month for that reason is practiced in South Korea.
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JeffC



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jzer, thank you for the advice.

Would it be a better idea for me to fly into someplace like Tokyo or Hong Kong and apply for a visa there. It seems that in order to even get into Taiwan you need a return flight out of the country?
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jzer, thank you for the advice.

Would it be a better idea for me to fly into someplace like Tokyo or Hong Kong and apply for a visa there. It seems that in order to even get into Taiwan you need a return flight out of the country?


That depends on your airline. Immigration has never checked whether I have a return flight. But I can tell you that airlines are afraid of being fined for transporting someone to a foreign country that do not meet certain requirements. I was harassed in Bangkok by Thai Air for not having a flight out of Taiwan when in fact I possessed a work permit for the next year. The problem was that my ARC was in the immigration office and I just had a single entry permit in my passport. The problem is I left Taiwan at the same time I was extending my ARC and Thai Air did not seem to understand that. Eventually I was allowed to board the flight but it took some sorting out.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jzer, thank you for the advice.

Would it be a better idea for me to fly into someplace like Tokyo or Hong Kong and apply for a visa there. It seems that in order to even get into Taiwan you need a return flight out of the country?


Hong Kong is known to be one of the most difficult places for obtaining a 60 day visa. I don't have any personal experience in Hong Kong. This is second hand knowledge.
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JeffC



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any suggestions on obtaining a 60 day visa?
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lookingforworkinasia



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but if anyone can post details in regards to start up costs, I'd really appreciate it. I'm interested in finding things like apartment rental prices (including deposits), amount of time it took to find said place and temporary residence options, etc.

I'd be coming over from Korea, so flight isn't something I care about. I just want to know how much a move would cost me.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be useful if you gave us an idea of where you were planning to set up shop. (Taipei, Tainan, Taichung, etc.)

Taipei rent 8,000NT to 12,000NT ( one or two months deposit)
You can get a cheaper apartment but I would not recommend it. My first place was 6,000NT and I believe it still rents for 6,000NT.

Two months living expenses $2000 to $4000US depending on how frugal you are.

I would say to leave one month for getting a job and then another months wait until your first pay check. If you are 40 or 50 then it might take longer to find a job. There is definitly age discrimination for buxiban/hagwon teachers in Taiwan. If you are between 20 and 30 then you will probably find a job in a month. I got my first job on the first Friday after landing in Taiwan the previous Sunday.
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Old Surrender



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get it: Hop a plane, come over and find a job.

Embarassed This may sound like an idiotic question, but how does one find a gig in Taiwan once they're there? Is it akin to finding one in the states/Canada? (Craigslist, classifieds, help wanted signs in windows, homies in the know, etc.)

Thanks,
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JZer



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are in Taipei, find Taiwan Normal University. On the 7th floor of the Mandarin Training Center is board. Most weeks there is an ad for an English teacher.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mtc.ntnu.edu.tw/indexe.html

You can go there and look on the 7th floor.
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Old Surrender



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
http://www.mtc.ntnu.edu.tw/indexe.html

You can go there and look on the 7th floor.


And a place to check out to learn Chinese! Very Happy

Thanks. Graduating in December, hopping a plane in January.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And a place to check out to learn Chinese!

Thanks. Graduating in December, hopping a plane in January.


My opinion is the instructors there are a little old fashioned.
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