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Chthon · Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 54

There are young, dumb, and ugly teenage boys in every society. I think the issue in Saudi Arabia, though, it that a possible solution (or at least a possible agent to alleviate the problem a bit) is so obvious. You have a ton of unemployed young men with the welfare/entitlement mentality.

Yes, you see riots and violence at many North American sporting events, but young North American men don't have the levels of unemployment, the lack of education, or the degree of "spoiled-ness" (I made a new word) that young Saudi men do.

johnslat · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject:

Dear desultude,

I hate only the haters; I'm intolerant only of the intolerant; I'm prejudiced only against racists, and I'm mad only at the violently angry.

I am, in short, a big oxymoron (and there are a fair number who will wholeheartedly agree about the "moron" part. Smile

)

Thanks,
John

desultude · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 614

I share your philosophy.

The older I get the less tolerance I have for voluntary ignorance and unfocused anger and hatred.

There is unfortunately way too much of this in our business- which is supposed to be education, not ignorance!

007 · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject:

desultude · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 614

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Not nice. There is a lot of tension just under the surface in any city in KSA. One reason why I have retreated to the boondocks !

gorkomi · Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 142

Well, I thought that this was a case of smashing windows and running away. Millions of riyals stolen, and other stores busted? What lousy skunks!

This is NOT typical behavior in America. Sports fanatics are ridiculous, but they don't loot and rob and tear down the walls of Starbucks and jewelry shops. Otherwise it's called a riot (eg LA riots of 93)

johnslat · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject:

Dear gorkomi,
I protest - we can be just as dumb. Would this qualify?

There are always two things you can count on following a sports championship. A parade and a riot. Boston held its riot after 4-2 series victory over the Los Angeles Lakers for the NBA championship. If this is how Boston acts after the Celtics win the title it�s a good thing the New England Patriots didn�t go 19-0. Clouds of smoke would still be covering the city. ...

http://youbeenblinded.com/boston-celtics-fans-riot-after-victory

How about these?

Lakers win sparks Los Angeles rioting after Kobe Bryant brilliance
� Revellers attack police and cars outside Staples Center

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jun/15/kobe-bryant-la-lakers-nba-staples-center

A heartbreaking 1999 NCAA Finals loss sends thousands of Michigan State Spartan fans rioting in the streets.

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/rampage-spartan-street-riot.html

And our neighbor to the north:

"The 1994 Stanley Cup Riot occurred in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, on the evening of June 14, 1994 and continued into the following morning. The riot arose after Game 7 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals in which the Vancouver Canucks lost to the New York Rangers.
After the NHL contest was concluded, 50,000 to 70,000 individuals reportedly converged upon Downtown Vancouver. What initially was a gathering developed into a riot at Robson and Thurlow Street. This happened after an accident involving one or more victims who fell through scaffolding related to construction of a building on the corner, and later spread to surrounding areas of downtown. Total damage to the downtown core was estimated at $1.1 million CAD. Like other Robson and surrounding retailers, the then Eaton's department store had more than 50 of its storefront windows smashed.
Subduing the crowd required the efforts of both the Vancouver Police Department and Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers. In all, 540 officers were directly involved with the riot. Many individuals were arrested and charged, and up to 200 individuals were injured.

Aftermath
Ryan Berntt, a rioter who was shot in the head with a plastic bullet by police, causing a four-week coma and permanent brain damage, filed a civil suit against police and the City of Vancouver claiming excessive force. In 1997, he was found 75 percent liable for his own injuries, however, the British Columbia Court of Appeal ordered a new trial in 1999."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Stanley_Cup_riot

And it's nice we have videos, isn't it? Kind of look like riots to me.
Smile

Regards,
John

manowur · Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 68

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=126872&d=30&m=9&y=2009

Has anyone found youtube footage of this?

gorkomi · Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 142

Well johnslat, I still don't see the stealing of millions...

However, you have shown me the light. American football fans are just as idiotic as young bored Saudis with intentions to smash stuff.

johnslat · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject:

Dear gorkomi,

Thanks - my national pride has been appeased. After all, this was the first such incident in Saudi whereas our young people have a long and distinguished history of idiocy.

WE ARE NUMBER ONE!!!!!! Very Happy

By the way, if I could correct a misapprehension of yours, you wrote of " . . . the stealing of millions . . ." but the millions referred to was not "stolen"; that was the amount of estimated property damage that was caused:

" . . . . caused losses worth millions of riyals . . ."

Regards,
John

trapezius · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject:

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=126872

Dozen teens flogged for role in rampage

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Don't get too cocky there JohnS, I think the football (not American type) fans in the UK could give us some competition for that number one position...

VS