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spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

When are you gonna make the run? I'll send you some good-luck vibes.

sparks · Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 632

I've gone through this several times. They never have the decision ready before my old karta pobytu expires. I use a lawyer on Mokotowska 30, someone to run back and forth and help me get my things together. You or a lawyer, if you choose to hire one, must inform the urzednik that you need a visa and that Schengen law makes her suggestion illogical and illegal. He or she will, of course, either argue with you or flat out refuse your request since you have proven that you know more. This is also why it's good to have a lawyer to help convince them.

When I first opened my business they would not accept that because I have a dzialnosc gospodarcze I don't need a work permit. I had to write a special letter to the urzad praca to request that that they give me a letter stating the law that allowed me to work in Poland without a visa if I have this business.

See? They don't know the law. You can get them to put a visa in your passport, I know they have them. You just have to teach them about the law in Poland first.

justflyingin · Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 100

dynow · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080

yeah, it's a total joke.

as a matter of fact shake, ignore everything I or anyone else has said about schengen laws, restrictions or anything else. there are never any consistencies and each case is a unique one depending on who you talk to, what city, etc. etc.

Master Shake · Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA

justflyingin · Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 100

Master Shake · Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA

Master Shake · Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA

I returned to Warsaw from L'viv Ukraine yesterday without a hitch at the border. The immigration official didn't even give me or my passport a second glance. He did, however, spend a couple minutes grilling each of the Ukrainians about their intended activities in Poland - it took forever to cross the border.

BTW, L'viv is a very cool city. Lots of pretty buildings (though in need of some maintence), inexpensive food, decent beer and lots of local talent. Very lively place, even on a Sunday night.

Worth the trip, even if I didn't have to get a stamp.

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

Cool. Congrats!

justflyingin · Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 100

Wonderful, Master Shake. Glad you are back okay.

Tbird · Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Warsaw, PL

So, I want to bring this topic back to the top.

I just did the visa run, got back about 3 hours ago.
I went into Lviv, just like several folks have told me they have done, AND the folks at Dluga 5 suggested as well...

-Into UKRAINE and out, no problem; stamped both ways
-When entering Poland, they let me in, BUT no new entry stamp! Just an exit stamp from 2 days earlier...
-I technically have 2 more days on my original 90...

I have talked to Master Shake and a few others IRL who have told me they did the run before their original 90 expired and they've rec'd a new stamp (am I right MS?)

My questions are:
Should I have stayed out until my original 90 expired, then tried to re-enter?
Will the proof that I've left Poland be enough for Immigration to issue my KP, even if I don't have a stamp for a new 90?

( I've actually rec'd a letter stating I needed to leave by 12/6, although my 90 days is up on 12/8 , and then return- they even told me in person that all I needed to show was a hotel rec'pt to prove I've been out of Poland, which I thought was BS...)

-sorry for the rambling nature of this post- I've had about 2 hours sleep.

thanks in advance for your replies.
T

Master Shake · Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA

So they didn't give you a new stamp, Tbird - tough break!

I don't think it really matters, though. Like you wrote, just use the exit stamp to prove you left. Photocopy this page in your pp and take it to room 51 (letter H) on the top floor of the Dluga 5 immigration building. Make sure you bring originals and copies of the document with your case number and the document saying you have to leave PL.

You should be fine. I imagine you not receiving
the entry stamp was mere oversight, not somebody trying to screw you over. They're obliged to stamp your pp by law when you cross a border.

No, you shouldn't have waited until your 90 days were up to leave PL. If you had, they would technically be obliged to keep you out of PL for 90 days before they let you back in!

Tbird · Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Warsaw, PL

MS-
yeah just came back from Dluga 5. Just dropped off every bit of proof that I was out of PL, including hotel receipts. They basically said the same thing you just told me. Strange though, isn't it. No entry stamp. Although the Grancja were primarily occupied with nabbing the Ukrainian undesirables from the bus. (5 ppl. got the hook at the Polish checkpoint.)
Long ride. Me tired. Sleep now.

Thanks MS

wojbrian · Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 178

I had the same experience. As long as you have proof and documents you will be fine.

Did you try asking them to stamp it?