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How to get that foot in the door? Is it really that hard?
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Deep Thirteen



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Location: East Sea Japan

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would really do as much research on this forum and others as you can about how to tailor your resume to the market. This site helped me tremendously with working on my cover letters/resume with an awareness of what many of the companies are looking for.

Being able to do background research on companies here has also been helpful.
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MrWright



Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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Location: Arizona

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow up question. Perhaps this would be better as a new thread. Once your established in a job, and you get an ALT position, if that is what you want, is there upward mobility, at least salary wise? Will someone make the proverbial 270,000 for ever? I know many teachers on this forum have been in Japan for a long time. Is there long-term job secrutiy, unlike Tawain? What about retirement? Thx.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there long-term job security?
Not always, and in many cases not usually. Contracts for only 3 years total time are common in universities, and I think most uni teachers are PT, living on hopes of renewal after renewal. ALTs, technically should be hired directly after 3 years, but employers often find ways out of that.

Upward mobility as an ALT? What is it like where you are? Perhaps becoming a manager somewhere, but in Japan, the majority of ALTs are hired by dispatch agencies (Japanese) or the JET Programme. Not much room at all in the former, and a wee bit in the latter if you want to become a trainer or manager. Pay doesn't always seem to go up much, either, although I don't have figures for ALTs. Certainly in eikaiwa you can't expect much in most cases.

It's a tenuous market.
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Threnody



Joined: 13 Nov 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Am considering starting my MA Tesol. Would that help?

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Starting it will not help. Finishing it might. What had you intended to do with it? A master's is needed for most university jobs, but you will also need publications, J language ability, and experience here (usually). As mentioned above, hard to say if a master's will be considered by most employers as better than a greenhorn with a degree in geology. Sad, but true in some cases. They may not want someone storming in with new-fangled ideas on how to teach.


This is something I'd wondered... if you have an MA TESOL and aren't yet eligible for the plum university jobs, is it still possible to get regular ALT/eikaiwa jobs in Japan for the purpose of gaining experience there, or would you be considered overqualified?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think a heckuva lot of eikaiwas these days would consider someone with an MA to be overqualified, especially if you played it down. They want people with the right personality and "greenness" in many cases.

ALTs. It actually might be better to have that MA, but I don't know for sure.
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Threnody



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
I don't think a heckuva lot of eikaiwas these days would consider someone with an MA to be overqualified, especially if you played it down. They want people with the right personality and "greenness" in many cases.

ALTs. It actually might be better to have that MA, but I don't know for sure.


That's fairly good news. Thanks!
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