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Harvey
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| yaramaz wrote: |
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Just where did you imagine a person with only a BA degree could get a university position? A few countries that permit that exist, but most do not. It has very little to do with "experience" and more to do with degree. |
I have worked in a uni in Turkey, am currently working for an Australian uni in China and have been offered (but turned down) work in an Omani university. I have a BA, Tefl cert and 8 years' experience (and only 3 years when I got the Turkish job). It isn't impossible at all. |
Two important points:
You have to wonder why a 4 weeker (non celta) does not want to improve her qualifications after 8 years and why any half decent institution would want to employ someone who does not want to improve herself.
The uni in Turkey was a joke.
Would you be happy studying at a uni where the "teacher" had just a 4 week course? (non celta) |
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anyway
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| Bitter much, Harvey? |
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yaramaz
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| Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Two important points:
You have to wonder why a 4 weeker (non celta) does not want to improve her qualifications after 8 years and why any half decent institution would want to employ someone who does not want to improve herself.
The uni in Turkey was a joke.
Would you be happy studying at a uni where the "teacher" had just a 4 week course? (non celta) |
Sigh. Is that you, 31?
Anyway, I'm not a '4-weeker'--- my course was several months, full time. Canadian college TEFL programs are notoriously long. I've been doing ongoing training since, just not the DELTA or an MA. Thanks for your vote of confidence and total knowledge about everything I have done in my life.
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santi84
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Two important points:
You have to wonder why a 4 weeker (non celta) does not want to improve her qualifications after 8 years and why any half decent institution would want to employ someone who does not want to improve herself.
The uni in Turkey was a joke.
Would you be happy studying at a uni where the "teacher" had just a 4 week course? (non celta) |
Sigh. Is that you, 31?
Anyway, I'm not a '4-weeker'--- my course was several months, full time. Canadian college TEFL programs are notoriously long. I've been doing ongoing training since, just not the DELTA or an MA. Thanks for your vote of confidence and total knowledge about everything I have done in my life.
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Not to mention the teaching practicum alone in the Canadian college TESL courses is usually longer than an entire CELTA course, and that doesn't even include the 30-40 university credits of TESL coursework!
Is CELTA better? |
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norwalkesl
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| I know the USA isn't a Commonwealth country but with Canadian/Italian/Welsh parents, you should at least investigate the possibility of legally working in one of those countries. |
With Canadian/Italian/Welsh you can explore getting citizenship in one of those places and then getting an EU passport. |
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Harvey
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| norwalkesl wrote: |
| Insubordination wrote: |
| I know the USA isn't a Commonwealth country but with Canadian/Italian/Welsh parents, you should at least investigate the possibility of legally working in one of those countries. |
With Canadian/Italian/Welsh you can explore getting citizenship in one of those places and then getting an EU passport. |
The EU does not issue passports as it is not a country. |
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Harvey
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Two important points:
You have to wonder why a 4 weeker (non celta) does not want to improve her qualifications after 8 years and why any half decent institution would want to employ someone who does not want to improve herself.
The uni in Turkey was a joke.
Would you be happy studying at a uni where the "teacher" had just a 4 week course? (non celta) |
Sigh. Is that you, 31?
Anyway, I'm not a '4-weeker'--- my course was several months, full time. Canadian college TEFL programs are notoriously long. |
The first TEFL cert I googled in Canada was the following-6 weeks and at a distance-notorious I think so:
Appy On Line
The TESOL Certificate Program is designed for teachers of English as a Foreign Language who want to continue their professional development, for professionals in Canada considering a career change, for international students who wish to be trained as teachers of the English language, and for recent college graduates who want to travel and teach abroad.
Certificate candidates receive intensive academic training and take part in relevant professional and cultural experiences, all within a six week period of instruction. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| Harvey wrote: |
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| Insubordination wrote: |
| I know the USA isn't a Commonwealth country but with Canadian/Italian/Welsh parents, you should at least investigate the possibility of legally working in one of those countries. |
With Canadian/Italian/Welsh you can explore getting citizenship in one of those places and then getting an EU passport. |
The EU does not issue passports as it is not a country. |
Sorry, but that kind of misinformation does no one any good. You might as well have argued that Wales isn't a country either and can't offer citizenship, but what would be the point? In any case, have a look at the range of EU passports at the following link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport_of_the_European_Union |
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yaramaz
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:18 am Post subject: |
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The first TEFL cert I googled in Canada was the following-6 weeks and at a distance-notorious I think so:
Appy On Line
The TESOL Certificate Program is designed for teachers of English as a Foreign Language who want to continue their professional development, for professionals in Canada considering a career change, for international students who wish to be trained as teachers of the English language, and for recent college graduates who want to travel and teach abroad.
Certificate candidates receive intensive academic training and take part in relevant professional and cultural experiences, all within a six week period of instruction. |
Er, did it occur to you that a country as big as Canada (with a huge need for TESL instructors in its own big cities) might have more than one lousy online TESOL cert? |
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Harvey
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| As I wrote that was just the first one I looked at. |
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Chancellor
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Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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| Insubordination wrote: |
| I know the USA isn't a Commonwealth country but with Canadian/Italian/Welsh parents, you should at least investigate the possibility of legally working in one of those countries. |
Your ethnicity is irrelevant - you're not an EU citizen, so forget the idea of working in Western Europe.
With your experience and level of education, have you considered (as someone may have already suggested) teaching in international schools overseas (such as those that use the International Baccalaureate - IBO - curriculum)? |
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Rich B
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject: Thanks so much everyone |
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| for all the responses and the experienced advice. I really do appreciate you all taking the time to write and advise me..will do as you all suggest. |
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