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johnslat · Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject:

Dear tiptronic,

Ah well, once religious rules (the rules of ANY religion) enter in, then sometimes reason (including the "age of reason") goes out the window.

I can't feel much sympathy for the mother, who should have known what she was getting herself into.

On the other hand, if she truly was "duped" by a lie into letting her son visit the supposedly "sick grandmother," well, I can't say I approve of the that, either.

Or does the end justify the means? Most religions, I believe, would say it doesn't.

Regards,
John

7atetan · Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject:

johnslat · Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject:

Dear 7atetan,

"He's right: I have nothing in common with an individual who thinks along the lines expressed above.

Sorry - like it or not, you share a common humanity. And guess what - we humans (including, of course, me) aren't always right about everything, even when we think we are.

That's why tolerance, not clashes, is preferable. In those clashes you write of, well, you can kill those who disagree with you, but you're not going to change their beliefs - just as they're not going to change yours.

Regards,
John

7atetan · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:15 am Post subject:

Vanica · Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 368 Location: North Carolina

The US is a little but not too much different with regards to custody.

According to U.S. law, the best interests of the child are to be served, and the best interests are presumed to be joint custody between the father and the mother.

50-50 custody prevents a woman from leaving by keeping her, through her children, bound to the biological father, even if he has never shown any interest in the children previously. Its intention is preserve the family, even if the family doesn't want to be preserved. There is also no child support from the father to the mother if there is 50-50 custody.

Vanica · Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 368 Location: North Carolina

In the Jennifer Birrell case, it seems like Mohammed Nagi is the one being punished. He got the 200 lashes and has spent nearly two years in jail.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I am still puzzled. Why should anyone expect me to waste my sympathies on this person ?

Sleepwalker · Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 454 Location: Reading the screen

I am still amazed that Western women marry Gulf Arabs and have children, and, when the marriage ends, don't get out of the Gulf. She was free and clear but chose to remain.

I am also dumbfounded that she signed an Arabic document without adding 'without understanding' after her signature.

Most of all, I can't understand why this woman went to Qatar - were alarm bells not sounding? It's common knowledge that an Arab family will always try to gain custody of the children.

I'm sorry for any child separated from parents but this is such a common story that I can't really feel sorry for the mother.

chaiplz · Joined: 20 Mar 2011 Posts: 108 Location: Boston, MA

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

In Islam, the children belong to the father. If the father dies, normally his family will take the kids... especially if the wife isn't Arab and/or Muslim.

This is in general and exceptions can be made due to marriage contracts and family relationships.

VS