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ShioriEigoKyoushi
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Location: Japan
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lenoreelux
Joined: 30 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| ShioriEigoKyoushi wrote: |
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| You have to think about the school AND the new person who is willing to stay in Japan either for at least a full year OR longer like I am planning on doing. Why don't you just go and private tutor or something so the rest of us who are in it for the long term don't get screwed??? |
Sorry Leno but it's probably time for those newbies to learn that in the world of work nobody owes anyone anything. Work is a market - a competition. If you offer the most, people put you at the front of the queue. If you have less experience than others around you, you've got to recognise that you are at the back of the queue, and that means taking what you get (as well as trying your best to change it, of course). If you put enough work in you can sometimes jump the queue, because sometimes people in front of you take their foot off the gas and you can gain skills or certifications more quickly. But... someone already here "has to think about the school" and "has to think about the new person"???! Should change their plans for the benefit of random strangers who might "get screwed"? Nobody has to think about you.
You'd be lucky to get this in any job in your own country right now, let alone here. Work just isn't like this. It's about things people need - money for a roof above their head, money for food on the table - and hardly anyone is going to jepoardize those things for the benefit of people they've never met, even less so people who haven't yet even made the investment of time or energy they've made or spent enough time in the situation to know what they're talking about. You'll quickly find that if you do take the hit for the benefit of those around you, the only one who loses out is you. Most people won't appreciate it, and many of those around and above you will presume you're a fool so it'll undermine your own opportunities in the future. Why should someone put themselves into financial insecurity for your benefit? What did you ever do for them?
Oh no, you're stuck in your home country living with uncertainty and possibly an indefinite timescale before you get pay... that's exactly the same situation almost everyone here has already been through and accepted in order to get here. It sucks, and in an ideal world it wouldn't be the case, but there's no particular reason why you shouldn't have to deal with something everyone else has already dealt with. You think you're better? If it's a problem handle it - get a short term job, reconsider your plans, do what's necessary to take care of yourself. This is called "taking responsibility". It's what adults do.
Tbh from reading your little whinge here I personally don't think you should come here at all. If you think it's someone else's problem to help you with the basics, god knows what you're going to think of the rest of the genuinely unreasonable stuff that goes on out here as a matter of course.
Stay at home. Keep enjoying mum's great cooking. You probably think I'm a real bitch right now for what I've written here. But I'm telling you how it is, and if you try to ignore this reality the person who is going to get hurt over and over again is you.
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You took everything I worte out of context... No one owes my anything. I was thinking about the kids that this person is going to be leaving in the middle of the year and then they will have to deal with someone new and it will be hard for that new person and the kids.
And I was not asking for help from anyone. i know what is possibly going to happen. Some people who want to work and be responsible to fullfill the contract and obligations and not be selfish and leave because it is convenient for them. i have my contract, I am there in March no matter if I have a placement or not. My friends in Japan and I want to know where I will be living so that I can continue to help them in my spare time. Myself and others who have signed contracts to start in March/April waiting for placements want to know where before leaving their home countries also. It is sad that this person can't just leave or just try to do something else until they want to leave after their contract is over instead of signing another year contract and then leave after several months. Unfair for kids and the new hires that want to stay for a year or more. That was all I was saying.
And I do not live at home with my mom. I have my own place and have had it for years. My lease is up when I leave. I saved enough money so I can live off of for several months like responsible people do. Whatever, you will probably take this all out of line also.. Your already in Japan.. what do you care? This person is leaving and not staying. Others want a chance too. Someone gave you a chance and obviously you got what you wanted. Why can't others? Also you were a monkey being paid peanuts at one time also right? Isn't that how you got your foot in the door? |
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ShioriEigoKyoushi
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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Location: Japan
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Hot-Carl
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| In my opinion, I think that it is unfair that some of us newbies who are signing contracts and know that we will be there for a full year contract and we are waiting to hopefully get assigned before we travel out to Japan so that we know where we are living so that we can get settled in and get comfortable and not have to move again when they do get us a placement.. If I have to get stuck at one of the main offices and wait for a placement because you decide to stay but know that you are leaving the middle of the year or not, well, I am sorry but its just wrong. You have to think about the school AND the new person who is willing to stay in Japan either for at least a full year OR longer like I am planning on doing. Why don't you just go and private tutor or something so the rest of us who are in it for the long term don't get screwed??? Sorry if i seem like a bitch but come on... I am nervous enough about being placed and I do not want to deal with being in limbo. I want to start a new life and job too ya know. |
Nobody cares. That's life. Deal with it. |
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lenoreelux
Joined: 30 Nov 2009
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| All I was doing is giving an opinion and getting attacked by people who obviously have never been in that situation would not know. Yes life is never really fair. I have heard it most of my life and have lived through tons of hard times. Other people should not make it hard for others but no one cares about other people so they do it anyways. I just would never do what that person is doing. What ever, I am done. |
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Amarok
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Location: pineapple under the sea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| All I was doing is giving an opinion and getting attacked by people who obviously have never been in that situation would not know. Yes life is never really fair. I have heard it most of my life and have lived through tons of hard times. Other people should not make it hard for others but no one cares about other people so they do it anyways. I just would never do what that person is doing. What ever, I am done. |
People here are definitely taking the douchebag route in responding to you, and I'm sorry about that. However, the basics of what they're saying (past the layers of being rude) is pretty true: people have a tendency to look out for themselves first, even at the expense of other employees, their employer, and the schools they work at. In an ideal world, people would actually consider those around them, and I can definitely sympathize with your frustration over seeing people like the OP make efforts to exploit the system when you just want a foot in the door. However, things aren't going to change any time soon, so you just have to take things in stride the best you can and be a better person than they are. |
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mintxleaf
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| Did you know that in your contract gap you can go on unemployment? I'd hassle Interac to get your unemployment documents in order, then, the day after your last day, go to Hello Work. |
Inflames (and others who know more about this than I do)-- can you explain this in a little more detail please? Interac still hasn't gotten back to me about whether I am, for certain, keeping my current position (although I should, since both the BoE and the schools I work for have both expressed much favor in keeping me)... but assuming I am getting the recontract, what do I need to do to go on unemployment during the mid-march ~ April period (in-between school years where we don't get paid)?
Thanks!
EDIT: I do have my unemployment certificate from Interac from early, early on when I started my contract - is this what you're talking about, or are there more forms, etc. that needs to be brought into Hello Work? |
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Mikoan
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Hi Mintxleaf, if you don't mind me asking, why are you planning to quit Interac? I'm asking because you seemed pretty excited about it back in the fall, and I'm about to start with Interac this March (already have my placement), so I'm curious. (Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not put your reasons out in public.)
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Hi Mintxleaf, if you don't mind me asking, why are you planning to quit Interac? |
They didn't say they were quitting. Mintxleaf even mentioned waiting on a new contract at the current placement.
Interac contracts don't last the full year, only the school year (from the beginning-ish of April to mid March-ish) which is just one of the many dodgey ways dispatchers can cut costs and up profits. So in these weeks when you are not under a contract (and hence not getting paid) you are technically unemployed and should be able to claim unemployment benefits. |
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Mikoan
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| Yes, but Mintxleaf is thinking of leaving Interac and finding another job in Japan (it seems), which is why s/he would like to, if possible, recontract for less than the almost-year. (Though I didn't know Interac did not contract for an entire year; thanks for the heads-up.) That's what I'm wondering about. |
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Inflames
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| mintxleaf wrote: |
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| Did you know that in your contract gap you can go on unemployment? I'd hassle Interac to get your unemployment documents in order, then, the day after your last day, go to Hello Work. |
Inflames (and others who know more about this than I do)-- can you explain this in a little more detail please? Interac still hasn't gotten back to me about whether I am, for certain, keeping my current position (although I should, since both the BoE and the schools I work for have both expressed much favor in keeping me)... but assuming I am getting the recontract, what do I need to do to go on unemployment during the mid-march ~ April period (in-between school years where we don't get paid)?
Thanks!
EDIT: I do have my unemployment certificate from Interac from early, early on when I started my contract - is this what you're talking about, or are there more forms, etc. that needs to be brought into Hello Work? |
Basically your Interac contract doesn't last for an entire year and there's usually a one month gap between contracts, and Interac knows this. The card you have is important, so keep that. You need another form from Interac (I forget the name of it) with your income for the last 6 months - this determines the amount of unemployment insurance.
Interac will probably throw some hissy fit about you making them write this up (it takes less than 20 minutes per person) - they'll probably say that they need documents from the school and everything but it's just Interac's bs to avoid doing anything to benefit ALTs. You take both of them to Hello Work and go from there (there's a 7 day waiting period once you go to Hello Work before you can get benefits). I think there's a time limit for how long they have to give it to you at that. But, if they're giving you a new contract I generally wouldn't make a big deal about it - Interac has fired a lot more people for a lot less. |
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