|
Job Discussion Forums "The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
askiptochina
Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing
|
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
I am only 1.5 weeks into this "60 student" bizarreness, so I am hardly in any position to give advice. However, I have been told by other teachers "If you get 5 students interacting, you are doing alright"
This is about right I think, considering half the class is just doing their math homework, and when the class starts (when I think I am starting it, lol), it feels like I have walked into a park and just started talking to myself.
No one is paying attention, even the ones who can make some conversation. I have to make an initial question and repeat it 20 times. Eventually, the good ones chime in and that's when the class really starts.
From there, I branch out and try to get the surrounding tables involved. After that, everyone else gets a visit at their desks from me. If they speak some English, then I know they are not paying attention, and I make them ask someone who participated before to help them.
The ones who can't speak English will get a short read and repeat drill. I don't see this as a task to teach 60 students collectively, but more to teach top to bottom. Spend time with the top students until they zone out and work your way down.
I think yesterday, my last class had 2 students who initiated communication. By the end of the class, 1 one of them and her friend would participate, and the other student was able to get 4 of his buddies around him to listen to me. They didn't want to answer me, but they would say the answer to him. On the other side of the classroom, there were 3 students who gradually built up the courage to say, "An inventor is someone who invents!!". At least it's a start, lol. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
killian
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 937 Location: fairmont city, illinois, USA
|
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
OK. general set up is teacher at elevated platform, behind podium. blackboard behind.
the kids are conditioned to lethargy in the classroom and expect such. lethargy IS an option. i refused such. first thing i would do is push that podium out of the way. always perked the kids up. after a few reps, picking kids at random to push it out of the way is always fun. always in english
get a sticky ball. seriously. the blackboard is huge. draw a seating chart on the board. generally speaking each class has 64 kids so an 8 by 8 grid should suffice. make it clear that each GRID CORRESPONDS TO EACH STUDENT. e.g.- 1st kid, 1st row near door is top right on grid.
after the drills/reading/whatever and t is time for questions get out the ball. have a random kid throw. whichever grid the ball hits, that kid answers. they pick this up real quick. they love it. the kid answers, he gets to throw. hilarity ensues when they target their friends. 9yeah, kids aren't gonna know and their mates are gonna feed them answers...but such is better than them doing math homework during tsalking english class)
be open, never scold. if some kid freezes up go gentle. create an open environment but remain firm on in class tomfoolery.
afterawhile all the kids'll pay attention because they don't want to look stupid when the ball hits them. then all you gotta do is let the kids ask a question after they answer the previous and prsto they are speaking english and you are having lotsa joy. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
zootown
Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 310
|
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
| dakelei wrote: |
| Not true. Most "Senior 3" students do not study Oral English with a foreign teacher but many Senior 2 students do. There IS an important change coming down the pike. An exam for Oral English is being incorporated into the "gaokao" and will, in fact, count for 10% of the entire gaokao score. This will begin next academic year. The test itself will actually be administered in March rather than June with the rest of the exam. I've attended only one meeting about all this so I hardly qualify as an expert. I view this news as a mixed bag for us who teach high school. It will be nice in a way that what we do will now be taken much more seriously BUT it will also, well, suck that what we do will be taken much more seriously. If one's students fail the exam in droves he or she will quickly be pointed toward the nearest exit. From what I have seen and heard about the exam if it graded at all objectively and fairly MANY students will fail it miserably. I've experimented in my classes with some of the things the students will be asked to do and a fairly large percentage simply cannot do them. Granted, I'm in a somewhat backwater city and my high school is only the third best here. But the exam is hardly "easy." One section will require students to utter several coherent sentences somewhat spontaneously and with no script. Anyone who has taught high school students here knows how difficult it is for them to do that. Another section will simply require students to read a section out loud. That shouldn't TOO bad as long as the vocabulary isn't too advanced. Another asks students to repeat something they hear spoken. That should present no major problems. It's the speaking without a script section that concerns me the most followed by reading words they may not have ever had to speak out loud before. Today I was practicing the phrase "reasonably priced" and it was torture. 80% or more of the students butchered it. Even a word like "spicy" presented major problems. We have our work cut out for us. |
Excuse my ignorance but how are they going to score these oral tests?
Are they going to listen individually to every student it would take for ever. They are going to need a lot more FT's to supervise this test?
Surely the would not let Chinese English teachers supervise these tests there was only a very small number who could speak English reasonably well at the school I taught at. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling. Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
|