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naturegirl321
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| Sleepwalker wrote: |
You can try turnitin and other anti-plagiarism software.
Other options I've used is to either viva the students with three quick fire questions apiece; have them do quick presentations on their work; or give them the general topic/reading a week in advance and have the answer to a specific question produced as a timed writing exercise in class time (no notes allowed).
The last has been the most successful. |
Possibly, if the school would pay. I've decided to choose their topics and severly narrow them down so they can't get info off the net. |
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gaijinalways
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I have handed out zeros to a few people, but luckily for them the grade was only for the opening paragraphs they wrote (we'll eventually have the intro, body and conclusion parts written), which is worth about 3% of their grade. I attached the website they pulled it from when I was checking their 'research'.  |
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helmsman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I attached the website they pulled it from when I was checking their 'research'. |
I have been doing the same thing. The students look pretty sheepish when confronted with a printout of the webpage they copied from. Makes the teacher look omnipotent too! |
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gaijinalways
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| Makes the teacher look omnipotent too! |
Nah, my students just now know I can use the Internet too! |
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jonniboy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| When I give mine essays I usually go to the Wikipedia page involved and add a few phrases of my own. It's easy to see who's cheated when I get my own writing handed back to me |
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gaijinalways
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| When I give mine essays I usually go to the Wikipedia page involved and add a few phrases of my own. It's easy to see who's cheated when I get my own writing handed back to me |
And do you ask for royalities?  |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Happened to a guy I know. He wrote the info about X city, was reading an essay and thought, hm, wow, this sounds familiar. It was copied and pasted direclty from the Wikipedia article that he had written four years ago. |
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geaaronson
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I just had half of my class cut and paste. A few even went to the trouble of changing them slightly as if to appear authentic.
Now what I am going to do is give them back the papers ungraded. They will be allowed 5 minutes to study the information, I will ask for the papers back and then they have to rewrite the essay. Should do the trick. |
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| If you can receive the essays in MS Word format, just select and copy a block of text, and paste it into Google. I've done this with my nephew's Facebook entries. Usually they are illiterate and childish. When he comes up with something philosophical with perfectly written, I do this and for sure, it is lifted. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| geaaronson wrote: |
I just had half of my class cut and paste. A few even went to the trouble of changing them slightly as if to appear authentic.
Now what I am going to do is give them back the papers ungraded. They will be allowed 5 minutes to study the information, I will ask for the papers back and then they have to rewrite the essay. Should do the trick. |
Sounds like a good idea.
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| If you can receive the essays in MS Word format, just select and copy a block of text, and paste it into Google. I've done this with my nephew's Facebook entries. Usually they are illiterate and childish. When he comes up with something philosophical with perfectly written, I do this and for sure, it is lifted. |
Doesn't work if they get it in X language and translate it word for word. |
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Isla Guapa
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:08 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Doesn't work if they get it in X language and translate it word for word. |
Even if you can't prove the work has been plagiarized from the internet, a word-for-word translation will be a very bad translation and will merit a very low grade. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| Not necessarily since grammar isn't the only thing graded, there's content, organization, spelling, punctuation, etc. |
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Isla Guapa
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a recent article from the New York Times, which details how cutting-and-pasting instead of doing your own writing is a huge problem in academia in general:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/opinion/13tue4.html?src=me&ref=homepage
The main point of the article is that students who don't do their own work don't learn much, except how to use the internet to cheat! |
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