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steviok85
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:47 am Post subject: |
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I had worked there three years previously and I was applying for a senior position.
I don't know. He was waffling on about their new curriculum, and asked what I remember from the curriculum I used for the three weeks I was there in 2007. A three-week curriculum?? Coupled with his maniacal questions, he sounded like he was frustrated with life from the outset. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Why any interview at all for a school where you had previously worked? |
I wanted to ask the same thing for a place where I had already interviewed just a few months before. Of course, in their defense, they could say it was a different kind of interview (fact finding vs. employment).
I wanted to do a phone or video-conference interview the second time around (rather than flying back there again), but they insisted I need to do a face to face again. Decided to save the cash and ended up choosing door number 2.
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| In my case, the school was simply looking for confirmation that the candidate was a native speaker, had at least half a clue about EFL and, most importantly all of, was not an argumentative potential trouble-maker. |
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| Did you tell them about your being peeved for 76 pages?? THAT would be potential trouble! |
Ah, yes, that would be one interesting interview.
Interviewer, the one and only And what do you think your linguistic contributions to ESL/EFL theory are, summarized in chronological order with appropriate references to the latest grammatical theories?
Interviewee (shadow of HenryCowell)
Hmm, haven't I seen your grammatical rants on Dave's ESL Cafe?
Interviewer How dare you read on the Internet!!! (sound of phone slamming)
Interviewee I guess this means I don't get the job... (said to friend who was listening in on the call)
Naaaah, couldn't have happened.....  |
So far the hijackers of this thread have not contributed one iota in response to the OP. Don't you really have the experience you say you have? Or anything to write even vaguely worth reading? |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| So far the hijackers of this thread have not contributed one iota in response to the OP. |
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| Don't you really have the experience you say you have? |
No, I do.
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| Or anything to write even vaguely worth reading? |
Yes, please buy a sense of humor at the next opportunity.
Seriously (beside buying the sense of humor or humour, as you like ),
interviewing by telephone with or without video is becoming common practice. Just how common depends on the country and the said institution.
The OP should expect to ready to answer usual interview questions, and yes without a video link, expect to be at a disadvantage, which all interviewees will be (assuming all candidates are interviewed at a distance).
PS And I thought for sure you would correct the error I left in as a pun 'grammatical rants' instead of 'rants about grammar'. Oh well, nothing is guaranteed except death (taxes if the taxman can find you ).
Ta,
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Have a sense of humour - quite refined, in fact. But it demands something more ...well, humorous than your offering. Just like puns - to impress me they actually need to be proper puns. Here's one from the punning master himself, Wilde: 'at any rate, education produces no effect', which expresses a sentiment very close to the heart of your matter.
Re the original topic of this thread. Make sure to state whether or not you can hear the interviewer over your phone line. They will probably be using Skype or some other cost-saving telephony system, and so the quality of connection may not always be there. It is distracting to hear echo or static in an already stressful conversation, so let the caller know that the line is bad. A good interviewer will check this with the candidate first anyway. But hey, you knew this already, didn't you? |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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I guess my attempts at 'educating you' were over your head, so it didn't accomplish much.
Ah Sashadroogie, you seem to forget quickly that you're not the only one who has ever been in a supervisory position. How does that expression go 'power corrupts...'
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| It is distracting to hear echo or static in an already stressful conversation, so let the caller know that the line is bad. A good interviewer will check this with the candidate first anyway. But hey, you knew this already, didn't you? |
Are you saying that there is static on your end?
I've had that problem plenty of times, but this has occurred because of telephone interviews conducted on cellphones (no, I'm not kidding).
Sometimes time is really of the essence, and one or both parties can't be bothered to go to a land-line. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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The only accomplishment of your botched and insulting attempts to 'educate' me, aside from hijacking this thread, was to induce withering pity for you. What on earth, even with all your conceitedness, could have put the notion in your head that I would ever have anything to learn from the likes of you?
I am not the only one who has had a supervisory position, nor did I claim that. However, no other contributor to this thread has offered anything experience-based, or even useful, to the OP. Taking pot-shots at me seems to be the only goal. But you missed. Rather than try again, perhaps you could re-direct your energies and offer the OP something a little less trite than 'time is of the essence'. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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I've conducted telephone interviews from time to time.
I recall one candidate who wouldn't shut up
On and on and on about her work and life. It clued me to ask her how she likes teaching writing (a major focus in our context). She quickly labeled herself as a 'people person' who enjoys conversation classes (in which she's likely the star monologist) and wouldn't be interested in teaching for other skills.
And a girl who applied for a job at this uni, which turned out to be her own alma mater, but went on for ages about the classroom management skills she'd applied to 11 and 12-year -old learners at a summer camp. NOT applicable.
I wonder if phone interviews invite a greater degree of cluelessness about the specific job one is applying for, lacking visual clues? |
Hmm. I did try to contribute positively. I thought the lesson was: be sure you know who you're speaking to, and about exactly what position. Don't hog the conversation. Plan in advance how to impress an interviewer for the specific position you hope to get...... |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Apart from Spiral et al, of course  |
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gaijinalways
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Uh, I guess that is not the only contribution he missed. As I said, "I was actually interviewed on a cellphone, and a few times from cellphones."
I would even suggest that some people also keep notes and a copy of their resume nearby, as sometimes specific things you want to cover might com from that. Don't expect always that the interviewer has it or has read it.
How has the thread been hijacked? We're still talking about the same thing, telephone interviewing.
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| What on earth, even with all your conceitedness, could have put the notion in your head that I would ever have anything to learn from the likes of you? |
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
No, I guess you're right Sasha, since you seem to know everything already, there is not much chance of me actually helping you to learn anything, including humility.  |
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holoholo girl
Joined: 16 Jun 2010 Posts: 58 Location: Mesopotamia
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| I'm wondering the advantage of a tele interview as opposed to a Skype interview (video or not). I am having my 1st cell phone interview this week & think its strange to go this route instead of skype. Any thoughts? |
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spiral78

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Not everyone has skype. Strange but true. |
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johnslat

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Dear spiral78,
True - but i can't see why they don't since it's free and works quite well for my tutoring students in Slovenia.
Regards,
John |
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spiral78

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| In general, I agree...but I have to also say that my laptop picked up some viruses from Skype a couple of years back and I prefer MSN messenger today. But I use it daily - who needs a phone anymore? |
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gaijinalways
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| I use Yahoo messenger myself, and if I added the webcam and mike, it would be more or less the same for PC to PC. |
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Perilla

Joined: 09 Jul 2010 Posts: 792 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| spiral78 wrote: |
| Not everyone has skype. Strange but true. |
Whenever I've used Skype the audio quality was poor or there was a time lag. Admittedly I haven't tried it for a couple of years, but gimme a good old telephone anyday. |
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