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Sashadroogie
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fladude
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| What about South Africa? |
I know several South Africans. Some of them, especially those of Dutch ancestry are hard for me to understand at times. My real concern though would be how widely recognized the standards are. Not to say that they can't speak English or that their colleges aren't good (most South Africans I know seem to be well educated), only that I am not sure how their standards compare to other countries. I can't see showing up the US, for example, and trying to get a job with a South African degree. On the other hand, if you had one from the UK, you would be fine. Its probably just a form of snobbery, but that doesn't mean that it isn't real. |
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sojourner
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On the query re affordable Masters degrees.
Someone has just mentioned South Africa. Many of you may not be aware that South Afica has one of the largest distance education universities in the world;viz, the University of South Afica (UNISA), which is based in Pretoria. It's quite possible that they offer Masters programmes in Applied Linguistics and TEFL - check out their website. Who knows, it might be cheaper to study through them than through an Australian or UK uni !
On the question of Australian unis, the recent appreciation of the AUD (now worth around 95 or 96 US cents) means that they are no longer as "cheap" as was the case just a few years ago when the AUD was fetching around 75-80 cents.
Check out the site for NZ's Massey University, based in Palmerston North. Massey has been running distance education degree programmes for many years . (Unlike UNISA, which is primarily a distance education institution, Massey also has internal students). Apart from Massey, there might well be other NZ unis that offer distance degree programmes. Do a google search.
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sojourner
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Hi Naturegirl!
In your post you said:
"I'm now doing another MA from Deakin in Oz. Will cost 15K and I'm sure it'll be worth every penny.
"Funnily enough this uni is well respected in the country its' in, but they have simple English mistakes and their communication sucks".
Are you saying that the administration side of Deakin Uni leaves very much to be desired ? Or, were you confusing Deakin with your previous uni ! ( Maybe, both "suck" !). However, I would be v.surprised if Deakin 's admin. procedures have the reputation of being "slack". But in this age of rigid cost-cutting within the tertiary education sector, and the implications of such for (ancillary) staff training, etc, maybe, I shouldn't be too shocked !
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sojourner
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Hi, again, Naturegirl !
Re your current degree programme, at Deakin Uni, is it in Applied Liguistics or TEFL ? As you had already completed a Master's degree in one one of those fields, did Deakin grant you any "advanced standing" in light of your previous studies ?
How long will it be before you complete your studies through Deakin ?
Good luck !
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naturegirl321
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| I can let you have one for a couple of hundred. If you want a legit one, Australia is the place to get it from. |
Or you could get one from the US of course, or New Zealand, Canada or the UK (obviously). As long as you are in one of those 5 countries you should be fine. |
How about Ireland? they DO have Trinity after all. |
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naturegirl321
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| sojourner wrote: |
Hi Naturegirl!
Re your current degree programme, at Deakin Uni, is it in Applied Liguistics or TEFL ? As you had already completed a Master's degree in one one of those fields, did Deakin grant you any "advanced standing" in light of your previous studies ?
How long will it be before you complete your studies through Deakin ?
Peter |
Sorry, my first MA had admin problems. Deakin, my second, is fantastic! They've helped me a lot and even transfered four out of the eight required classes. So I only need four classes to graduate. that means I'm saving about $8000.
First MA was in TEFL. This is in MPET, Master of Professional Education and Training. I thought about Lingustics, but the courses were so similar to TEFL, so I decided to lean more towards admin, which is what this is.
About the CPL, credit for prior learning, I assembled all the stuff I had from my old uni, scanned it and sent it. I had gotten part of my MA accessed through foreigndegrees.com four years ago. Only the first semester, which was three classes. I also filled out Deakin's CPL form and compared my classes with theirs and found 8 possible ones. they only have room for 5. Most universities only transfer 2, in fact, Deakin says they only transfer 2. I got four, not sure why. Possibly becuase my first MA had 16 courses, the norm is 8 . I don't know. I'm just happy that i'll be saving time and money. I thought it was a mistake, but they told me that yes, they'd be transferring four courses.
I only took one course this semester. I had wanted to start in march, but just moved. So I started in July. Wanted to take more than one course, but we went on vacation for 3 weeks. I'll be taking courses next semester, so will finish in June. |
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MotherF
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| What about South Africa? |
I've been interested in this MA in Linguistics for a while now, but family obligations keep getting in the way of seriously looking into it. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| fladude wrote: |
| scot47 wrote: |
| I can let you have one for a couple of hundred. If you want a legit one, Australia is the place to get it from. |
Or you could get one from the US of course, or New Zealand, Canada or the UK (obviously). As long as you are in one of those 5 countries you should be fine. |
How about Ireland? they DO have Trinity after all. |
No distance MA. Or MPhil, as it is there. At least they didn't when I was looking for distance options. |
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SandyG20
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| If your from the USA and you eventually plan to return to the USA - will the schools here recognize a foreign degree as legitimate for teaching? |
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tttompatz
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| If your from the USA and you eventually plan to return to the USA - will the schools here recognize a foreign degree as legitimate for teaching? |
Yes, most places will accept an off-shore post graduate degree just as they would one that was earned in the US.
You would still have to follow each state's teacher licensing requirements so a post grad degree does not necessarily allow for direct translation into a license to teach.
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steki47
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I'm an American and was looking at schools in Oz due to the lower costs. Now with the plummeting USD, I'm leaning towards US universities.
Just looked at U of Missouri recently.
Ok, here's my question. Where's that list of online MA TESOL programs? Tesol.org? Not being lazy, just can't find it. Thanks! |
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Zero
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| What about South Africa? |
I know several South Africans. Some of them, especially those of Dutch ancestry are hard for me to understand at times. My real concern though would be how widely recognized the standards are. Not to say that they can't speak English or that their colleges aren't good (most South Africans I know seem to be well educated), only that I am not sure how their standards compare to other countries. I can't see showing up the US, for example, and trying to get a job with a South African degree. On the other hand, if you had one from the UK, you would be fine. Its probably just a form of snobbery, but that doesn't mean that it isn't real. |
I don't totally agree. I don't think employers would consider a UK degree much differently from a South African degree. Some employers might be freaked out by a foreign degree in general, while others would not. If they're OK with it, I'd say UK and South African would both be fine. |
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Hadit
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I checked out U of Tasmania and it's $14k total now.
How hard are those courses in the Australian programs in regards paper writing and testing?
I still like this comment about University of Columbia, Missouri:
�Truthfully, it's been easy to medium difficulty. I went to a very rigorous undergraduate program, but I do NOT believe I'm underestimating UM-Columbia. I've taken 5 courses online with them and I haven't had to write any papers over 4-5 pages.�
Anyone have good experiences with non-thesis programs like the above? |
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killthebuddha
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| steki47 wrote: |
I'm an American and was looking at schools in Oz due to the lower costs. Now with the plummeting USD, I'm leaning towards US universities.
Just looked at U of Missouri recently.
Ok, here's my question. Where's that list of online MA TESOL programs? Tesol.org? Not being lazy, just can't find it. Thanks! |
Check here for a start. They list 60 Online TESOL Education Programs, in no particular order:
http://www.gradschools.com/search-programs/online-programs/tesol-education?PageNo=1
Ranked (according to the QS World University Rankings) U.S. universities offering the TESOL M.A. online include:
University of Southern California (Ranked # 112 in the world)
Arizona State University (Ranked # 309 in the world)
University of Nebraska - Kearney (Ranked # 401-500 in the world)
Other "institutions" (brick and mortar) offering the program include:
Indiana State University
University of Southern Mississippi
Nova Southeastern University
New Mexico State University
University of Central Florida
American College of Education
University of Cincinnati
I dunno how much credence there is to the claim that purely online programs aren't recognized, but you can always be safe rather than sorry. (Otherwise, I'd have to conclude that there are no "affordable masters." The masters are too taxing on the world, and I can't discern how their environment is sustainable. Where's my beloved Sasha?)
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