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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Does there actually have to be a guarantee of hours in order to sponsor a visa? I don't remember there being something that specific on the visa application, but maybe there was.
I think they just give an approximate level of earnings to immigration based on what you would earn if you submitted a full time schedule and had 80-100% of those fill.
They also have a policy where they give all/most lessons where the student has not specified a teacher (plenty don't) to new teachers to help them build up a student base.
I actually renewed my visa with Gaba as the sponsor back in 2003, and I was on the flexible schedule, and there were no problems. I haven't started the visa process from scratch with them though so don't really know how it works.
There was a stage under the previous management (changed in about 2005- most of the dodgy stories you hear about Gaba come from before 2005 and in many cases were well-deserved) where Immigration were apparently not allowing Gaba to sponsor visas, but that seems to have been sorted out with the new owners and they have been sponsoring visas again for several years. |
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Canadagirl
Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Sounds good, thank-you!
P.S. I think I gathered from reading a few threads here that visa sponsors needed to guarantee hours - but I could be wrong  |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I think something to be cautious about is your first paycheck. As in Japan it takes 2 months to get your first paycheck. Add in with a good possibility of a poor first month or 2 of pay, and may have to support yourself with little pay for up to 4 months. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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This is quite true, unless you luck out and end up in a really busy branch which was desperate for new teachers.
Gaba is not a job to take if you're only going to be able to bring enough start-up money to survive the first month with you.
Something to note also is that the training is unpaid, so that's 3 days basically of work that you don't get paid for. |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Apsara wrote: |
This is quite true, unless you luck out and end up in a really busy branch which was desperate for new teachers.
Gaba is not a job to take if you're only going to be able to bring enough start-up money to survive the first month with you.
Something to note also is that the training is unpaid, so that's 3 days basically of work that you don't get paid for. |
Well it's Japan, so us gaijin have no rights as workers. So most people get unpaid training. I was not paid for the solid week of training at Interac. They also had me living in Japan a good 3 weeks before I started work. So that burnt a lot of cash.
With my current job they used me. Had me sub at far away pre schools, and only paid me for 2hrs, as I was "PT".
It's how it is. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, is that the norm for eikaiwa/ALTs these days? Things are definitely getting worse. I went through the Nova training twice (glutton for punishment ) back in 1996 and 1999, and got paid both times, but that was a long time ago so probably things have changed. I also get paid for the training for temp jobs I do now, so it's not an across the board thing for foreigners in Japan, maybe just particular industries. |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, is that the norm for eikaiwa/ALTs these days? Things are definitely getting worse. I went through the Nova training twice (glutton for punishment ) back in 1996 and 1999, and got paid both times, but that was a long time ago so probably things have changed. I also get paid for the training for temp jobs I do now, so it's not an across the board thing for foreigners in Japan, maybe just particular industries. |
Well to be honest I think that the ALT and Eikaiwa companies are racing to the bottom trying to undercut eachother. I wonder where the bottom will be? As Japan has a lot of natural attractions, Martial Arts, Anime, so people will be coming here long after the jobs become unreasonable(which I think about half of em are now).
The 90s? You were here when ESL was still good, ya lucky jerk=P But yeah people in other industries get bonuses as well as days off. While a lot of eikiawa jobs don't anymore. To be honest, I am trying to get a real job here, but I haven't taken the 2kyu yet. So if that doesn't pan out, I'm going back to America. 12bucks an hour is not worth all these hassles. |
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tcatsninfan
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 35
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| Apsara wrote: |
Oh, is that the norm for eikaiwa/ALTs these days? Things are definitely getting worse. I went through the Nova training twice (glutton for punishment ) back in 1996 and 1999, and got paid both times, but that was a long time ago so probably things have changed. I also get paid for the training for temp jobs I do now, so it's not an across the board thing for foreigners in Japan, maybe just particular industries. |
Well to be honest I think that the ALT and Eikaiwa companies are racing to the bottom trying to undercut eachother. I wonder where the bottom will be? As Japan has a lot of natural attractions, Martial Arts, Anime, so people will be coming here long after the jobs become unreasonable(which I think about half of em are now).
The 90s? You were here when ESL was still good, ya lucky jerk=P But yeah people in other industries get bonuses as well as days off. While a lot of eikiawa jobs don't anymore. To be honest, I am trying to get a real job here, but I haven't taken the 2kyu yet. So if that doesn't pan out, I'm going back to America. 12bucks an hour is not worth all these hassles. |
I don't know what your degree is in or what kind of work you're looking for, but I'd be careful about coming back to the US just because the pay is low. The US job market has taken a turn for the worse in every field, not just education...from 2006-2008 I had a great job making well over $20 an hour, but then I was laid off and I've been struggling ever since. I was out of work for 10 months and then, when I finally did get a job, it was at $12 an hour and requires a lot more effort than the previous one (the one that paid double). For the past 2 years I've applied for better jobs in a 200 mile radius of where I live and nothing has come of it yet.
I've had a few interviews but not even getting to that stage guarantees anything anymore. Just a few weeks ago I had an interview in a city 80 miles away. They had already found who they were looking for. So, yeah, I'm not ashamed to say that I've been served a slice of humble pie constantly for the past 2 years.
What I would recommend is that you keep studying your Japanese and use that to your advantage, either for something in Japan or some job in the US that might use that skill once you get good enough at it. I would continue building relationships in Japan and see what else might develop.
It's possible for you to find a better teaching job, though, and even though I don't speak from personal experience I know someone who can. He saw a listing on Gaijinpot toward the end of last year for a teaching position near Nagano that paid 300,000/month. It was listed directly by the BOE, he applied for it, and got it. He had taught in Japan once before, back in the 90's, but it was only for about 4 months. And he's been studying Japanese but not extensively.
So, good luck and I hope things work out for you. |
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