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nickpellatt



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two sides to this coin IMO.

Trifaro does state he tends to have the more troublesome classes, and Im assuming this is in a Uni setting so classes are probably large too. Getting through those classes and remaining sane can be a tall order for some, and not every teacher can manage to keep them engaged long enough, and often enough, to make the class worthwhile. I wouldnt want to do those classes if truth be told. Not worth it for me, and its not what I enjoy. Kudos to people who can do that week in, week out.

The flipside though, is something you mention yourself Trifaro. The 'teaching grammar' and using powerpoint. Great teachers (and Id like to be one someday) dont teach grammar at all. The facilitate conversation or oral based tasks where the students have to 'use' grammar, not teach it. A simple example would be an oral task of students deciding which holiday to book from a choice of three, with the target language being the use of comparatives. Conversation has been facilitated, and because a target structure is being used, the teacher can identify and isolate mistakes, correct students or give students the chance to self correct and reinforce the rules. There is no reason this lesson cant be as fun and engaging as any other lesson ... and its not dull grammar.

I think the key point is a great teacher who can engage students, and knows how to use grammar or language points to facilitate conversation will probably do a better job for their students as in all likelihood, the students will gain both fluency and accuracy, and make fewer mistakes as a result of it.

Like I say, fair play to you if your students like you, and you do a good job in the eyes of your employers, but a great teacher who does know grammar etc would probably be able to do more..
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The Edge



Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trifaro wrote:
In the end, I think it all depends on the level of the students. If their level is low = more edutaining. If you have English majors, then a more academic approach is best.

I "specialize" in the less desirable students. You could call me an "Oral English Mercenary"! Everyone has their role.

I doubt anyone could be more entertaining than me! I aim to teach them a few new words to hopefully help them pass the CET 4 and be done with their English classes for life.

We all have our calling. I believe a lot of folk can't do what I do in class. I'm sure that I couldn't explain the difference between a future progressive and a past participle.

I am an "Oral English Facilitator".

Quite frankly, it isn't that difficult to get the kids attention - simply walk around and speak loudly.

Why any "Oral English Teacher" would sit up front behind a desk, speak into a mic and point at a ppt, is beyond the realm of my imagination.


There have been some great posts on Dave's over the years but this one is up there with them in my opinion.
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