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situation in Egypt (Revolution)
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't know if I would leave or not... especially as it would be abandoning one's pay check and most of one's possessions. Speaking only for myself, I would probably wait it out.

VS
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tatsuo1



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:53 pm    Post subject: re: leave or stay? Reply with quote
veiledsentiments wrote:
I don't know if I would leave or not... especially as it would be abandoning one's pay check and most of one's possessions. Speaking only for myself, I would probably wait it out.

VS


I would have to agree with VS. As long as one has the financial means to leave whenever, why not wait it out to see what happens? The protests do not seem to be directed towards foreigners at this point. Strictly internal protests.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's a tough call - according to some reports, the Muslim Brotherhood has started to take part in the protests. And the members of that organization are not too fond of "Westerners."
It reminds me a lot of the "Islamic Revolution" in Iran, back in '79. Many of the protesters thtere weren't "Islamists" - there were a lot of "Communisdts" and "Democrats," too. But look who ended up in charge.

I didn't get out of Shiraz in time and ended up spending a couple of months there since all the airports had been closed down. I never felt really "threatened" during that time, but it was rather uncomfortable going out to get groceries. Occasionally, I'd get some "harsh words" from some locals, but, if they spoke English, we'd always end up talking, and then I'd get invited home for dinner.

I don't think that any Westerners in Iran were injured/killed from January of 1979 up to the hostase taking at the embassy (I think that was in November of '79.) And even then, as I recall, all the hostages were released essentially unharmed.

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John
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beenthere96-2005



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
johnslat wrote:
It's a tough call - according to some reports, the Muslim Brotherhood has started to take part in the protests. And the members of that organization are not too fond of "Westerners."
It reminds me a lot of the "Islamic Revolution" in Iran, back in '79. Many of the protesters thtere weren't "Islamists" - there were a lot of "Communisdts" and "Democrats," too. But look who ended up in charge.

I didn't get out of Shiraz in time and ended up spending a couple of months there since all the airports had been closed down. I never felt really "threatened" during that time, but it was rather uncomfortable going out to get groceries. Occasionally, I'd get some "harsh words" from some locals, but, if they spoke English, we'd always end up talking, and then I'd get invited home for dinner.

I don't think that any Westerners in Iran were injured/killed from January of 1979 up to the hostase taking at the embassy (I think that was in November of '79.) And even then, as I recall, all the hostages were released essentially unharmed.

Regards,
John


It sounds like that you have "been around" John!

The military has made it clear in Egypt that it will support ( and not fire upon ) the people.

Mubarak must go.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Muslim Brotherhood is very different from the Mullahs of Iran. I wouldn't consider them equivalent. The two situations are so different, the two cultures are so different.

VS

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear veiledsentiments,

Well, I hope you're right. But I'd say that "fundamentalists," no matter what their religion, are all pretty much the same, especially in this regard: It's either their way or the highway.

(And, considering the "checkered history" of the "Brotherhood," leopards and spots also come to mind.)

Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://chronicle.com/article/At-American-U-in-Cairo/126174/
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
""I don't know what kind of news they're relaying in the United States," said Raquel Miller, a study-abroad student from Mercy College. She said she had attended a protest on Sunday. "We took pictures with them. It was fine. It felt like a regular street gathering. You wouldn't even know it was a protest, except for the slogans and posters."

OK, I'm sure I'm going to be accused (perhaps rightly) of making "facile comparisons," but the scenario above is exactly the same as I experienced in Shiraz, Iran in 1979. Many of the teachers at what was then called "Pahlavi University" attended just such student protests.

Regards,
John
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