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Lobster · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:24 am Post subject:

Yea, maybe being sarcastic, and maybe not. But here you see so many people doing the weirdest things that you can never be sure without the rolly eyes unless it's blatantly obvious. Being a superficial type, I tend to accept things at face value.

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Mister Al · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 840 Location: In there

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wangdaning · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154

When I was in high school I knew many of my teachers pay as well as hours.

In university it was required to be disclosed. I also asked a few of my teachers point blank how many hours they worked and politely about how much they earned (I was interested in continuing with my university and becoming a professor).

As far as discussing your contract with students, I wouldn't, but is it immoral/unethical? No.

Students are paying for a service and there is no reason they shouldn't know the conditions those providing the service are under. If a teacher is being dragged though the mud then the students are not getting the most for their money. Is it wrong for them to know why they are not getting what they paid for?

Again I do not talk with my students about this, but I fail to see how it would be such an atrocity.

sainthood · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:45 am Post subject: Update!!!

Well, all of this discussion has, effectively, come to nothing (thankfully).

I was given a reply to my reply.

I was replying to "We've never had this before. We can't do that. Here are your 2 options".

I replied with "Yes you can do that. It's all black and white legal. I can buy a very expensive return ticket".

I was replied with "You can't just buy an expensive ticket!!!! Please understand the position I'm in. I'm sorry".

So, I replied with "I do understand - your boss is crap and you're caught in the middle. I will find a lawyer, fight it, as well as posting this story on all the ESL forums I visit... so no-one will come here, because we all value our return flight reimbursement- and the university will lose a LOT of face".

I got back "Ok, you win Smile

"

Sure, I won't get a bucket load of cash, but what amounts to about what the contract states (probably slightly more in their favour, but only because of the exchange rates at the moment).

Moral of the story - sometimes you really do have to play it hard! (so, if you're not that sort of person, to demand what you're entitled to, DON'T come to China!)

(disclaimer - not all of the above replies may be considered quotes, and may or may not accurately reflect the actual communications :p)