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Guy Courchesne
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| willpeach85 wrote: |
| @Guy Muchas gracias por su ayuda. I have experience with both but in terms of my objective which do you think is better suited? Will language insitutions and the business circuit free up with more study hours? Or is the other way around? If I was to come primarily for teaching kids, peak hiring time is mid-August right? |
Working with kids at a private primary or secondary school means you're working from 7:30 AM to 2:30 PM or later, Monday to Friday. You'd have to find night or Saturday classes for the courses you want to take.
Peak hiring for the above was in February or so and the school year starts in mid-August. Arriving in late August or September means you're looking for positions that didn't get filled by the school year start. There will be a good number of such positions.
Language institutes (low pay here makes it harder) and business English classes (better pay but possible travel time issues) often see split hours, working early mornings and late afternoons. You'd have to find classes during the middle of the day.
In your other thread I mentioned UNAM's Spanish courses...they are highly regarded. The link is:
http://www.cepe.unam.mx/
If you look at their calendar, the next 6 week block of classes runs from the 19th of October to the 2nd of December. Another block starts in January. Classes run in the mornings or the afternoons, from 9AM to noon, or 4PM to 7PM (not all levels are offered in the afternoon).
There are other Spanish courses offered here (perhaps someone else can recommend one?) that may be a better match with a work schedule. |
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willpeach85
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Thanks so much guys, a couple more follow up questions for you all.
1. What do most teachers do in December? To get back to the UK, for me, would be massively expensive (not to say a hindrance on my objective).
2. Sharing an apartment and living with a family is high on my agenda, do you know of any resources or places that can help me to secure these types of opportunities? I know it depends on which city I choose, but D.F. is looking increasingly interesting.
3. To get a work visa do I apply from here in the UK or can I rock up in Mexico with my apostilled CELTA etc and apply there? I've read that I have 180 days to do this by switching from a tourist visa but what is the process like of applying for an independent work visa first? How much are the costs for this as far as you know? |
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Guy Courchesne
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1. Travel around Mexico, hang out in their own cities, head to their home countries...plenty to do. I tend to go home to Canada at Christmas. That's high season in Mexico so most beach locations become expensive and crowded.
2. segundamano.com.mx and http://www.compartodepa.com.mx/ are two resources to use, as well as Craig's list. You may find it easier to house hunt while here in Mexico though
3. For an independent work visa you'll have to apply from within Mexico, bringing the apostilled CELTA. If you end up teaching at a primary or secondary school, your employer will likely sponsor you for the visa anyway, also done from within Mexico. The cost is around 2600 pesos and takes between 2 and 4 weeks. You can pick up the checklist at the immigration office...it's not that hard a process. |
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Isla Guapa
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
3. For an independent work visa you'll have to apply from within Mexico, bringing the apostilled CELTA. If you end up teaching at a primary or secondary school, your employer will likely sponsor you for the visa anyway, also done from within Mexico. The cost is around 2600 pesos and takes between 2 and 4 weeks. You can pick up the checklist at the immigration office...it's not that hard a process. |
The process Guy has described is accurate, but it will be changing in the next few months. One of the biggest changes will be that you won't be able to change a tourist visa to a work visa, independent or otherwise, while you're in Mexico. Apparently, a law was passed recently that overhauls the whole visa system, but the enabling rules and regulations have yet to be worked out. |
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BadBeagleBad
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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The process Guy has described is accurate, but it will be changing in the next few months. One of the biggest changes will be that you won't be able to change a tourist visa to a work visa, independent or otherwise, while you're in Mexico. Apparently, a law was passed recently that overhauls the whole visa system, but the enabling rules and regulations have yet to be worked out. |
Whooooo, I hadn�t heard that. What will people do then to get a visa? They just changed it from being able to get one outside of Mexico to NOT, now they are changing it back? Man, am I ever glad I don�t have to deal with that stuff, it sounds like a headache. Do you know what happens to people who are already living in Mexico and have a visa? What do they do for renewels, or is that not effected? That is going to cause huge problems, I think, for smaller schools and institutes. Or they�ll just go back to letting people work illegally. |
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Isla Guapa
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| Isla Guapa wrote: |
The process Guy has described is accurate, but it will be changing in the next few months. One of the biggest changes will be that you won't be able to change a tourist visa to a work visa, independent or otherwise, while you're in Mexico. Apparently, a law was passed recently that overhauls the whole visa system, but the enabling rules and regulations have yet to be worked out. |
Whooooo, I hadn�t heard that. What will people do then to get a visa? They just changed it from being able to get one outside of Mexico to NOT, now they are changing it back? Man, am I ever glad I don�t have to deal with that stuff, it sounds like a headache. Do you know what happens to people who are already living in Mexico and have a visa? What do they do for renewels, or is that not effected? That is going to cause huge problems, I think, for smaller schools and institutes. Or they�ll just go back to letting people work illegally. |
When I first heard about this on an expat-in-Mexico website, my reactions were the same as yours, Teresa. We won't know the details for awhile, but what I have repeatedly read is that you won't be able to change your visa when you're already in Mexico. I don't think renewals will be affected. I agree that it will cause big problems for smaller schools and institutes. Maybe they'll have to start recruiting teachers while the prospects are still in their home countries, or maybe they'll just end up only hiring people who are already here who can work legally. Or they'll just go back to having people work under the table. A ver qu� pasa . . . |
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New Haven
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: new work visa application procedure |
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I am returning to Mexico on Aug. 27 after a 2.5 year stint working in the US. I plan to resume my teaching career and would therefore have to convert my tourist visa into a working FM-3 (again). Does anyone know when the new visa application regs will take effect? I'd hate to get to MX and then find out I have to return to the US to apply for a work visa. Thanks!
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Guy Courchesne
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BadBeagleBad
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| I think this is just going to be one of those wait and see things. It doesn�t seem logical to me that work visas will be processed from abroad, so MAYBE that will just apply to people wanting to retire, but then again who knows. Sheesh. Seems like they are making things a lot more complicated for everyone, including themselves. |
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New Haven
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Thanks, Guy and BadBeagleBad.
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Isla Guapa
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| I think this is just going to be one of those wait and see things. It doesn�t seem logical to me that work visas will be processed from abroad, so MAYBE that will just apply to people wanting to retire, but then again who knows. Sheesh. Seems like they are making things a lot more complicated for everyone, including themselves. |
Logic and common sense have little to do with the way the mind of the government works! And you should keep in mind that many countries require that you apply for a work visa while you are still in your home country and must have a job offer to be eligible to apply. China, for one, comes to mind. |
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willpeach85
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This visa stuff puts a spanner in the works!
Just letting you guys know I've got a few interviews lined up with companies in Oaxaca but am edging more towards the FM-3 independent work route that Guy has been helpful in suggesting.
Will let you know. |
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BadBeagleBad
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This visa stuff puts a spanner in the works!
Just letting you guys know I've got a few interviews lined up with companies in Oaxaca but am edging more towards the FM-3 independent work route that Guy has been helpful in suggesting.
Will let you know. |
It shouldn�t make a difference if you are arriving soon. Based on what I�ve read it looks like it will be November or so before any new rules start to be implimented. But if it gets close to the end of November without any changes, it could well be January, since nothing much happens in Mexico in December, and certainly not in any government offices I�ve ever dealt with. |
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willpeach85
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Thanks for all the help so far all. Have been working around the clock here to raise a healthy amount of cash to make the leap.
Researching the apostille - specifically given my CELTA certificate.
I got this issued in Vietnam where I achieved the cert at ILA. Does this mean I can't get it apostilled here? Difficulty! |
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notamiss
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Researching the apostille - specifically given my CELTA certificate.
I got this issued in Vietnam where I achieved the cert at ILA. Does this mean I can't get it apostilled here? Difficulty! |
Might be able to get it apostilled at your nearest Vietnamese consulate. |
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