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Nolan Chance
Joined: 13 Apr 2012 Posts: 45
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:01 am Post subject: Re: ELT research Oman |
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ETG wrote: |
I wonder how many "pen names" the infamous Solloway has. Anyone interested in starting a pool? Nolan Chance - do you want to cast the first vote?
Does Dave keep track of such details? Perhaps there's an award for the
user with the most noms de guerre. Spill chaps!
We all need some distraction before the third semester starts, bring on the heat.
Cheers
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I only became aware of this character via the venomous thread and then short-lived website mentioned above, but internet investigations reveal that Mr Solloway has had something like 50 users names on these forums alone!
But let's not hijack this thread which is about ELT research in Oman. Once again this is a highly laudable activity, but only if it is is purposeful, well-intentioned, well reported research, and not just some nonsense that superficially looks like research but even at a cursory examination appears to be vastly inferior coinage as in the keyboard meanderings of C Smith and A Solloway above. How on earth did these respective instances of catharsis and self-promotion get past an editor? That they did is worrying in the extreme.
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bookworm2
Joined: 08 Aug 2011 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Interesting points about research quality! Of course, varied quality is an issue with all genres of writing. Some pieces are better than others. Research is no different.
Universities rank research on a scale of 1-star to 4-star, 4-star being the highest. If it has international impact, i.e. positively received by scholars around the world, then a piece of research (book, article or chapter) is more likely to gain a higher ranking.
It�s generally considered good for researchers to get their articles published in international peer-reviewed journals (as opposed to local or regional journals that don�t send submissions out for peer-review).
Peer-reviewing helps by providing the editor with expert advice. Should the article be accepted with minor revisions, rejected with encouragement to revise or just rejected? Most articles can be improved after gaining sensitive intelligent feedback from experts in the field, so authors can learn a lot from the process.
Typically, the editors of top journals send submitted articles out to two or three peer-reviewers to get their opinions before making a decision. Maybe only one in five or one in ten of the articles submitted is eventually accepted for publication (depending on the journal).
Let's do the mathematics. If there are eight articles in the issue of a journal, and each has had two or three different peer-reviewers, then it means that maybe the editor has had the direct help of 20 experts with regard to those 8 articles (as well as indirect help from peer-reviewers who rejected articles - another 80 experts perhaps, if the acceptance rate is 1 in 5). So, it's a big operation involving lots of thinking work.
Contrast this with the case of a small college journal produced by a well-meaning editor working on their own and with limited submissions to choose from. Of course, you can find gems in little journals and mistakes in big ones, but the more extensive quality procedures employed by the big ones inevitably tip the balance in their favour.
Some of the biggest international ELT journals include: TESOL Quarterly, ELT Journal, Language Teaching Research, System and English Today. Good open access journals that also have a peer-reviewing system include Asian EFL Journal. Several researchers active in Oman have published in this.
Anyway, keep reading critically! Good luck!
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While I was out
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 119
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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This is a very good thread, thank you for reviving it. |
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Nolan Chance
Joined: 13 Apr 2012 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:23 am Post subject: |
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bookworm2 wrote: |
... [V]aried quality is an issue with all genres of writing. Some pieces are better than others. Research is no different....
Typically, the editors of top journals send submitted articles out to two or three peer-reviewers to get their opinions before making a decision. Maybe only one in five or one in ten of the articles submitted is eventually accepted for publication (depending on the journal)... Contrast this with the case of a small college journal produced by a well-meaning editor working on their own and with limited submissions to choose from.
Anyway, keep reading critically! Good luck!
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I hardly feel that luck should come into this. Editors have responsibility. And if they are so clueless as to be unable to distinguish pink slime from ground filet mignon, they would do the world a favor if they gave up pretensions to editing and concentrated on something within their realm of competence. |
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bookworm2
Joined: 08 Aug 2011 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: |
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I think we can all agree that editors should edit. Sometimes they don't and that can certainly cause damage. There may be various reasons for this, including lack of time, resources, training or quality procedures as well as lack of expertise in a particular field or lack of competence. However, I am not interested in bad research (sorry, I just don't want to read it) and I am not thinking of any particular examples.
We live in an age when anyone can publish online instantly (as I am now). We need to be able to edit ourselves. When engaged in academic writing, though, we also need others to help us.
Researchers prefer peer-review procedures. Even if manuscripts are rejected initially or submitted to endless revisions, we can recognise that the end product is more likely to be published research of reasonable quality that will be read with genuine interest. If it has been peer-reviewed, it is less likely to attract ridicule, but generally nothing is forgotten quicker than bad research.
As I said in my earlier post, we are more likely to find good research in international peer-reviewed journals, which is why I recommend them.
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