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geoboz
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 39
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:53 am Post subject: Workingin KSA |
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The lureof money in KSAis what draws most applicants,but I can tell you from first-hand account that working and living there is utterly stifling. Sharia law pervades every aspect of the country, and, as a westerner, itcan be suffocating. coupling these living conditions with the added stress of doing so illegally should be enough to cause any sane person to step back and rethink any dodgy proposal.
My brief encounter with the recruiter for EdEX showed him to be quite agressive and inconsiderate,calling me out of the blue without any notice whatsoever, and required information without any preparation on my part. His lack of professionalism seems to echo his client's, based on what others have said in this string. |
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Middle East Beast

Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 836 Location: Up a tree
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Check out the posted salary ranges for many KSA ads this year.
The lure of money is waning...
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fledex
Joined: 05 Jun 2011 Posts: 342
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't work with Ed Ex unless they pay you at least 20,000 SAR a month after accommodation and transportation. You could get sent anywhere, work anywhere up to 48 hrs. a week, probably won't get vacation pay, and most likely won't get a ticket home unless you sign another year contract with them. Uncorroborated word is that they are making about 30,000 SAR per teacher per month on their university contracts. |
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Pigeon2
Joined: 17 Aug 2010 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: Exit visa |
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| I'm interested in the point that if you have a work visit visa, you don't need an exit visa to leave the country. So, if you want to leave, you just book a flight and go? You won't be stopped at the airport? |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Pigeon2,
There's no such thing as a "work visit visa" - if you're on a "work visa," you're there working legally, you have an iqama, and yes - you need an exit visa to leave the country.
If you're on any other kind of visa - business visa - you are working there illegally and no - you don't need an exit visa to leave the country. However, if you're leaving on your own (doing a runner,) you'll be paying for your own ticket, of course. You won't get stopped at the airport (unless your illegal employer discovers that you're doing a runner, wants to stop you, and has enough wasta to do so, even though you're not legally employed by him.)
In Saudi, wasta rules - the chances of that last scenario's ever happening are mighty slim - but not impossible.
Regards,
John |
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turkzonline
Joined: 20 Sep 2011 Posts: 22
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Okay so this is what I mean. This person was going to go, and due to people's advice has decided not to, but NOT 1 PERSON will tell you where to work, or who is good.
So if everybody is so helpful, why arent they helping the person find a good placement? |
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Middle East Beast

Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 836 Location: Up a tree
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:36 am Post subject: |
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I know a couple of "good" ones, but they're not hiring.
"Good" is especially relative in the context of KSA, though.
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mikeinitaly
Joined: 23 Sep 2011 Posts: 6 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Education Experts |
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I'm sorry to start a new thread about this recruiter, but after spending about two weeks browsing through all of the posts here I don't have any alternative and would really appreciate some advice.
I'm British, 49, have a BA, a CELTA, and 27 years' teaching experience in Europe and Asia, 20 of them as a DoS.
I have been offered a job with Education Experts, and so far everything has been quite professional. I have a visa and a pre-paid e-ticket, but the visa is a "visit visa" and the company still won't tell me which university I'm going to work at, only that it's "probably in Riyadh". I'm supposed to be leaving on Friday.
What worries me is that if it is really as bad as described by so many posters, I won't be able to leave without an exit visa, which I imagine would be quite difficult and expensive to obtain. Also, it seems that it is illegal to work on this type of visa.
I'm seriously considering saying "no thank you" and looking elsewhere.
I would really appreciate any comments from Saudi veterans.
Thanks so much for your help. |
yes me too i am in this situation. I have received the contract and am worried as I have heard mixed feelings about these people.
Some updated help would be appreciated.
thanks
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fledex
Joined: 05 Jun 2011 Posts: 342
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| If you have a visit visa, you won't need an exit visa or letter to leave. Hold onto your passport. Yeah, they won't tell you where you are going until 24 hrs. or so before they send you there. They don't like to let the schools know when they are shifting people. So they keep it hidden from everyone, including the people shifting. Plan on paying your own way home and not getting your vacation pay unless you are going to sign up with them for another year. If you have something else, take it. |
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Middle East Beast

Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 836 Location: Up a tree
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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"Education Experts" sound like an oxymoron.
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lmorin
Joined: 15 Oct 2012 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:57 am Post subject: Ed Ex |
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| I worked for them and left them. I would say avoid them at all costs. As a Canadian I was not allowed to leave on the business visa. I have a friend who is currently suing them, others who want to and might be doing so myself soon for money owed and never paid. |
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readytotravel
Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Posts: 77
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Rumor has it that Aramco has contracted with them to provide English teachers. |
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jaffa
Joined: 25 Oct 2012 Posts: 403
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| They've got some serious wasta. Anyone else would be in jail. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| Working with one of those ARAMCO contractors is NOT the "dream job". If you want to go to KSA, do a search here and find the good employers. The infomation is here. Just look for it and remember judgements are subjective. What I feel is a good job might be purgatory for you. |
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AnneSansTete
Joined: 26 Jun 2012 Posts: 47
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| readytotravel wrote: |
| Rumor has it that Aramco has contracted with them to provide English teachers. |
Might one assume that this means no more direct hiring at ARAMCO? |
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