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generalgiap
Joined: 03 Sep 2011 Posts: 95
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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No I have not worked in Malaysia. However, I have worked for the Council.
It's very simple, using both logic and common sense, the Council is considered one of the most prestigious EFL schools in the world. Furthermore, the Council will look closely at your background, public school etc. It would not even consider anyone without a university degree and the CELTA at a minimum. In fact, a lot of their teachers have the DELTA and/or MA. If you check their London website, it states that a degree, Celta or equivalent is required and prefer the DELTA. One can also check their country websites which generally lists the teachers and qualifications.
Anyone who has elementary knowledge of the Council will confirm this. |
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Hod
Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| generalgiap wrote: |
| the Council is considered one of the most prestigious EFL schools in the world. |
Well yes.
Sudz, this guy is on about BC teachers recruited on full-time contracts with accommodation allowances, flights, etc. He�s not worked in Malaysia and doesn�t know about the part-time work visa you will get via your uni. If the BC KL have offered you part-time work, then you�re not breaking any rules by working there. |
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generalgiap
Joined: 03 Sep 2011 Posts: 95
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:30 am Post subject: |
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In fact, I am not only discussing teachers on full-time contracts at BC.
I have worked for the BC on both local-in-country, full and part time and full time contracts from the UK.
Working for the BC without a degree-LOL. |
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Sudz
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 438
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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The same person who recommended this program to me (MA TESOL through Nottingham), was employed by the BC part-time in Penang without a BA.
I have a feeling you wont believe me anyways. |
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generalgiap
Joined: 03 Sep 2011 Posts: 95
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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The BC does not change its educational requirements whether one is working full or part-time. However, it is always possible but highly unlikely. The main difference between full and part-time is the pay and benefits. Best of Luck
Section A
Information about the vacancy
Job title Teacher of English Location Penang, Malaysia
Start date Early January 2011 Job type Teacher
Closing date 10 Nov 2010 (5pm Singapore time) Number of posts 3
Advert text including job-specific skills, knowledge, qualifications & experience
The British Council Penang is looking for enthusiastic and experienced teachers of English to start January 2011. You will
provide quality language teaching to adults and young learners at a variety of levels. You will have a first degree and at
least a certificate level TEFL qualification plus two years' post qualification EFL teaching experience.
Interested applicants should complete a professional profile and send to [email protected] by
the deadline: 10 Nov 2010.
*For internal applicants only: please include your most recent end of year record along when sending in your application.
Please note that the end of year record is not used for short-listing but is taken into account for the selection decisions.
British Council is committed to a policy of equal opportunity and welcomes applications from all sectors of the community.
In line with the British Council's Child Protection policy, any appointment is contingent on thorough checks. In the UK, and
in other countries where appropriate systems exist, these include criminal records checks.
Local restrictions on employment (if any)
To obtain an employment pass teachers must be twenty-seven years old or above, have a first degree, plus a recognised
teaching qualification such as CELTA, DELTA, PCGE or equivalent, and at least two years teaching experience.
Passports must be valid for a minimum of two years from the contract start date.
In addition Malaysian tax laws require teachers to remain in Malaysia for a certain number of days per year to avoid
higher taxation. This is manageable but with frequently changing tax laws we strongly recommend visiting the tax office
on arrival to seek up to date advice. |
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KayuJati
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 313
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| generalgiap wrote: |
| In addition Malaysian tax laws require teachers to remain in Malaysia for a certain number of days per year to avoid higher taxation. This is manageable but with frequently changing tax laws we strongly recommend visiting the tax office on arrival to seek up to date advice. |
This is interesting. I was unaware of the tax clause and puzzled by the issue brought up by another poster regarding a 26% tax in the first six months. That was not in place when I started back in 1996. |
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Sudz
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 438
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the info |
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deessell2
Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 132 Location: Under the sun
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| generalgiap wrote: |
In fact, I am not only discussing teachers on full-time contracts at BC.
I have worked for the BC on both local-in-country, full and part time and full time contracts from the UK.
Working for the BC without a degree-LOL. |
I personally know two people who work at the BC that do not have a degree. One has since started his masters. Both work at the BC in Hanoi. |
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chezal
Joined: 25 Feb 2009 Posts: 146
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| generalgiap wrote: |
| The Council does not employ teachers who do not have a degree! Would any reputable school employ a teacher without a degree? LOL |
That's utter rubbish. I know 3 people working for The British Council who don't have degrees but only hold a CELTA (2 now have DELTA's) and many years of experience.
1 works for a BC in SE Asia, one in South America the other the Middle East. It all depends on visa rules for the country. Many countries will except experience in the job in replacement of a degree. |
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generalgiap
Joined: 03 Sep 2011 Posts: 95
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:03 am Post subject: |
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I have been in the EFL industry for over 20 years including Vietnam and including working for the BC in HCMC. The BC is never desperate for experienced and qualified EFL applications. Furthermore, they are quite fanatical about qualifications. However, if individuals want to disagree so be it. But they provide no evidence, of course. I have provided evidence. Please provide a document from the BC from any country stating that it will hire EFL teachers without a degree with other quals, experience. Dont even waste your time, you cant.
Furthermore, the BC is very snooty, snobby and shows disdain for uneducated people. Get real!! Also , I have never met a single person, never seen a CV with someone who doesn't have a degree who has worked for the Council etc etc.
From BC Vietnam website
What skills and experience are we looking for?
The skills and experience required are specified for each post and you can find out what is required by reading the Job description/person specification.
For teaching jobs you will need a first degree, a recognised TEFL certificate, at least 2 years� classroom teaching experience, and be familiar with contemporary UK. For guidance on recognised TEFL qualifications, please see our Minimum TEFL requirements page.
You then need to complete the application form to show how your skills and experience meet the requirements or the professional profile for teaching jobs. Please do not send your CV unless specifically requested in the job advertisement.
JOB VACANCY - HOURLY PAID TEACHER OF ENGLISH IN HANOI AND HO CHI MINH CITY
The British Council is the United Kingdom's principal organisation for educational opportunities and cultural relations and our purpose is to build mutually beneficial relations between people in the UK and in other countries. We are inviting applications for the following posts, based in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.
Post Hourly paid teacher vacancies in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City
Duration 2 months minimum
Salary 29.70 � 32.51 USD per hour gross
Duties Plan and deliver English language classes to young learners and adults to the standards outlined in the Teacher of English job description
Essential
Competencies
1. Recognised English teaching qualification equivalent to Cambridge ESOL CELTA
2. Education to first degree (BA/BSc) level
3. Substantial (minimum 2 years post qualification) relevant teaching experience
4. Proficiency in English equivalent to native speaker or IELTS 9
5. Genuine commitment to professional development as a teacher of English
6. Familiarity with contemporary UK
Closing date various closing dates
Interested candidates for Hanoi please send a completed professional profile to [email protected]
Interested candidates for HCMC please send a completed professional profile to [email protected]
Finally, to make all of you happy, if you have a high school degree and you can speak english, the BC will employ you. |
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chezal
Joined: 25 Feb 2009 Posts: 146
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Generalgiap say what you may but I KNOW my 3 friends don't have a degree and work for BC. I've worked with all of them previously and they are all brilliant ESL teachers. As I said 2 of them now have a DELTA and the other one is working on it.
You can quote all the documents you want but myself and deessell personally know 5 people between us who work for BC without degrees. The only evidence I'd be able to provide are their names and their exact place of work. I'm not willing to do that on a public forum just to satisfy you or anyone else for that matter. |
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Nemodot
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 53
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hi basic work permit regs state that you need
- pay of at least 5,000 rm per month (part time same)
- a degree or 5 years relevant working experience
- must be over 27 years old
Easy enough ti argue that MA sufficient main problem is that you need 5,000 rm min.
Malaysia boleh though you can if suitable "commissions paid" by employer ...... |
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