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therock



Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is 10,000 RMB per month high for Shenzhen? They are also requiring I finish a TEFL before being employed with them. If my 26 teaching hours take ten hours to prepare for I wouldn't take he job.

Don't get me wrong, I'm willing to work and I currently plan all my lessons, but I've found anything above 23 teaching hours (plus lesson planning) ends up feeling like a 40 hour work week.

(Once again, my goal is to study Chinese.)

Anyone know?


Do they offer accommodation?

If they offer accommodation then the offer is still on the low side, but might be worth considering if you are desperate to get your foot in the door of Shenzhen.

If no accommodation, then keep looking!
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Gtomas



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

therock wrote:
Gtomas wrote:


Is 10,000 RMB per month high for Shenzhen? They are also requiring I finish a TEFL before being employed with them. If my 26 teaching hours take ten hours to prepare for I wouldn't take he job.

Don't get me wrong, I'm willing to work and I currently plan all my lessons, but I've found anything above 23 teaching hours (plus lesson planning) ends up feeling like a 40 hour work week.

(Once again, my goal is to study Chinese.)

Anyone know?


Do they offer accommodation?

If they offer accommodation then the offer is still on the low side, but might be worth considering if you are desperate to get your foot in the door of Shenzhen.

If no accommodation, then keep looking!


The e-mail said "accommodation" assistance. The other foreign teachers seem to have paid for housing, so perhaps that is what they are referring to.

I "tentatively" accepted the job today, pending on a review of the contract. We'll see where this goes.

I need a new job, new place to live when my current ends in two months time. In a boring, boring, boring, boring "city" at the moment...
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sui jin



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your aim is to study Chinese , then coming to Guangdong is not such a good idea because the local people speak Cantonese, and their Mandarin can be poor or difficult to understand. I moved from Jiangxi to Guangdong and the locals can't understand my (ropey) Chinese either. It's kind of frustrating after being able to communicate reasonably well in other provinces.
Shenzhen may be different because of the number of migrants from all parts of China, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Gtomas



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sui jin wrote:
If your aim is to study Chinese , then coming to Guangdong is not such a good idea because the local people speak Cantonese, and their Mandarin can be poor or difficult to understand. I moved from Jiangxi to Guangdong and the locals can't understand my (ropey) Chinese either. It's kind of frustrating after being able to communicate reasonably well in other provinces.
Shenzhen may be different because of the number of migrants from all parts of China, but I wouldn't bet on it.


I've done a fair bit of research and it is actually supposed to be different in Shenzhen. Apparently most, if not many, speak Mandarin. I'm certain there will be some crazy accents mixed in there, but I bet I would be able to find enough educated people to practice with. (If the people on the street don't

I'm in a city right now where there is a bit of an accent and I find myself pronouncing things like them. It's so strange that my brain would turn "是� into si4. Just from living in a city for four months.
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Gtomas



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got the contract There is no accommodation assistance, outside of finding somewhere to live. I'm really surprised by this, especially for a city as expensive as Shenzhen.

The school itself is supposed to be in a nice part of the city, so I imagine to get a decent rent I would need to live a distance away.

Anyone have any advice to push them to add accommodation to the contract. The impression I got from talking to the other teachers was that accommodation was provided.
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doogsville



Joined: 17 Nov 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gtomas wrote:
I just got the contract There is no accommodation assistance, outside of finding somewhere to live. I'm really surprised by this, especially for a city as expensive as Shenzhen.

The school itself is supposed to be in a nice part of the city, so I imagine to get a decent rent I would need to live a distance away.

Anyone have any advice to push them to add accommodation to the contract. The impression I got from talking to the other teachers was that accommodation was provided.


Just phone them or email them and tell them you've just had a better offer but you'd like to give them a chance to match it before you take the other offer up.
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echidna_of_doom



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
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Location: Florida - the mystical land of swamp and concrete.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I heard the winters are mild in Shenzhen. However, I also read that although the winters are mild it gets cold (subjective as to what 'cold' is). I heard that most apartments don't have any heating. Air con for the humid summers but no heat for the winter months.

So my question is a) is this true? b) is cold an issue for someone who is 'cold senstive'? and c) can one find apartments with heating as well as a/c? or would you have to buy some sort of heater?


The winters in Shenzhen are wet and mildly cold, lasting from December through Spring Festival. The apartments have no heating and have lousy insulation in general. There have been occasions when it feels colder in my apartment than it is outside. There will be a few weeks where you'll be hanging around the house in a hoodie, sweatpants and thermal socks. You're probably more likely to find a place with an oven than with heating.

But generally speaking it's warmer than beijing/shanghai. If you're exteremely cold-sensitive go for Hainan. Cool
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knight4ever



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10,000 rmb/month is really low especially for a city like Shenzhen. It's doable but you won't be hanging out in Coco Park at the bars with your buddies very much (if you're into that). Without accommodation assistance, I would keep looking.

Speaking of the cold weather in Shenzhen, I'm sitting in my freezing apartment with a space heater my girlfriend gave to me. My tile floor could keep a bucket of ice cream frozen overnight and stepping on the floor without house shoes is an eye-opening experience!
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